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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:21 AM
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Celebrities I once liked, then found out how disgustingly right wing they were
It's very disappointing to really like a celebrity, only to find out that they're incredibly right wing/conservative in real like, and often completely against the characters they're playing on TV or the big screen. I know it's only acting, but we all need heroes and some of mine have turned out to be very disappointing.

Some of these are:

Craig T Nelson
Kelsey Grammer
Patricia Heaton
Charlton Heston
Tom Selleck
Bo Derek
Delta Burke
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:23 AM
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1. Ever notice how most of the RW Hollywood people are washups
OK, not all of them, but most of them. Bo Derek? 1978 called, it wants its stars back?
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StopTheNeoCons Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:12 PM
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114. Go here to find their contribution history....
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:29 AM
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189. David Blaine is a right-wing asshole?
Didn't know.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:40 PM
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224. well, we always new he was
A asshole :)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:26 PM
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234. LOL
Yeah.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:55 PM
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255. this guy kills me
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:32 AM
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247. That site seems to have got it's math totally wrong for Jon Cryer
How can he have given $4,600 to Obama and $2,000 to McCain (which is weird anyway) and still have 67% GOP and 33% Dem?
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Jon_Cryer.php

I still think Two and Half Men is hilarious, whatever.
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Unrepentant Fenian Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:18 AM
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251. Great Link! Thanks nt
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:08 PM
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233. Delta Burk's husband likes to kill animals by poking them with sticks. He calls
them spears but they are sticks and the poor squealing animals are in cages. I loathe him so much I can;t look at him. Gerald McKraney
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:24 AM
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2. Add to that
Jon Voight

Ron Silver

Dennis Hopper
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:25 AM
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Those three: washed up; dead; dying n/t
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:30 AM
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8. Wait.
Is that Jon Voight, the actor or John Voight the periodontist? You know, Tim Whatley's friend.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:30 AM
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9. Ha Ha!! I'm not sure, but I bought a car that he once owned!! n/t
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:34 AM
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15. That guy chews on pencils... ewwww.
:rofl:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:16 AM
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38. "Everybody's talking at me, I can't hear a word they're sayin'..."
"Drivin' 'round in Jon Voight's car." :rofl:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 06:01 PM
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124. Was that the blue Mercedes 450? n/t
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:55 PM
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254. voight the used car salesman
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:33 PM
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58. Dennis Hopper had an epiphany and voted for Obama.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:58 PM
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83. nice find.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:36 PM
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60. Ron Silver wasn't so bad
He was always slightly conservative on defence and foreign policy issues even when he was a liberal. He was one of those who had one of those annoying 9/11 conversions to right wing conservatism but, unlike other celebrities like David Zucker and Dennis Miller, he seems not to have totally lost his capability for rational thought. He did cheerlead for * in 2004 but he apparently had begin to recognize by 2008 that things had gone too far and, according to one of his orbituaries, he voted for Obama in 2008.

Dennis Hopper also supported Obama in 2008
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:26 PM
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149. Actually he is HUGH!!
Oops. I thought you were referring to Ron Jeremy, the porn star.

:blush:

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:55 PM
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75. I liked Ron Silver for his "West Wing" performances.
Bruno Gianelli was one of the best characters Sorkin created.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:02 PM
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85. One More....
Jerry Doyle.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 04:21 PM
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109. yeah, that one hurts... Garabaldi went over to the Shadows n/m
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:25 PM
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167. ironic that Garabaldi had always been with the shadows
and needed no help from psicorps
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:24 AM
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3. Delta Burke?
I thought she was pro marriage? Not that I follow celebs - which could explain my scrambled circuits if she's not.

What was her claim to infamy on your list?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:29 AM
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6. She played Dixie Carter's sister on "Designing Women."....n/t
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:06 AM
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46. I know who she played, just wondering what got her on the list
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:46 AM
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51. Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. Don't know either...n/t
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:17 PM
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98. It's less her than the fact she is married to Gerald McRaney
who is a flaming wingnut.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:59 PM
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84. i've read that she's a strong conservative
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:21 PM
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148. I've also read that she has a compulsive disorder and hoards, too. n/t
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:24 PM
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159. i heard that too
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:25 AM
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4. Jon Voight's conservatism surprised me.
Considering "Coming Home".
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:16 AM
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39. Just because an actor plays a part doesn't mean that they embody that persona.

Just look at the Governator. He played the underdog hero, about to be killed or squashed by the bad guys, time and time again while he was a republican.

Make believe is what actors do best.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:26 PM
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88. I was surprised by how batshit insane his variety of conservatism is.
Don't like taxes, like guns, must proclaim the name of Jesus 24/7, ok fine I get that. But Voight is a tinfoil nutball.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:14 PM
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96. That one was and still is a big disappointment to me because he
is a great actor, IMHO.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 04:18 PM
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108. And I adore his daughter, Angelina Jolie. It's like, how can it be possible that he ...???
:D
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:08 PM
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157. Jon Voight is one of those
who lost their mind post-9/11.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 11:56 PM
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257. me too
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:27 AM
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5. I never liked Patricia Heaton. She was always annoying. In fact, that entire show, Everyone Loves
Raymond, is the most annoying show on Earth. My husband and I used to make fun of it constantly.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:34 AM
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14. that show is great
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:36 AM
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16. Ugg. It gets on my nerves. I guess, different tastes for different people.
I bet some of the stuff I like to watch other people can't stand.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:46 AM
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22. I only liked it for Peter Boyle, Doris Roberts, and Brad Garrett
When they weren't onscreen it was meh.


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:53 AM
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25. Peter Boyle and Doris Roberts, loved them on that show. Boyle reminded me
of so many crabby old men I knew.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:03 AM
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32. Me too! He reminded me of one of my regular customers when I was a waitress years ago...
This guy used to order his Cherries Jubilee "with extra Jubilee (brandy), and don't light it!!!"

:rofl:

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:06 AM
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36. Well, lighting it will just burn off the "jubilee"...
:D
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:27 AM
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41. Peter Boyle was a liberal. He used to spar with Patricia Heaton all the time between scenes.
Fairly tamely, from what I understand. She expressed a great deal of affection for him when he died. I imagine he won all of the arguments. He was older, more experienced, and (probably) smarter.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:40 AM
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42. Interesting--thanks!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:41 AM
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209. Boyle's best man at his wedding:


:thumbsup:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:59 AM
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52. Boyle was a good liberal
He and Heaton used to tease each other. She called him a pinko flag-burning Commie and he would call her a rightwing fascist and stuff like that.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:44 PM
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66. The Peter Boyle X-File episode was awesome
I think he won an Emmy for that.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:08 PM
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77. One of my faves!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:48 PM
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133. Everybody Loves Raymond stinks.
Raymond's parents were the only funny ones.
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JSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:44 PM
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225. Oh god, I HATE the Raymond show
but her new show, "The Middle" on ABC, is great.

I went to the Million Mom March (anti-gun) in LA pre-911 and she was the keynote speaker. I was very disappointed to discover years later that she had drunk the Kool Aid.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:29 AM
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7. Never thought any of them were particularly talented.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:31 AM
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10. I've always found that an odd filter.
If you like someone's work, like it. If you don't, don't. Why can't the work stand on its own?

I'm not any MORE inclined to like a performance I'd otherwise hate just because someone's liberal. (c.f. Natalie Portman in The Phantom Menace. I like her - and her politics - a lot, but that performance was still bleh. )

I understand Mike Nelson of MST3K is conservative too - so what? His work is still hilarious.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:37 AM
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17. Yes, I'm weird that way.
I lived in Hawaii for three years during the time Magnum P.I. was filming. I used to love to watch the reruns on syndication. However, ever since I found out Tom Selleck is a right-winger, I don't enjoy watching near as much. Damn, it just ruins the aura as his character comes across as less than authoritarian loving.

Yes, it makes a difference to me because it shades the lens of which I view them in all other acting ventures.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:45 PM
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67. I think people have trouble separating things.
It's perfectly fine to decide not to endorse some artist's art because the artist is a dick. Whether the art in question is good or bad should be a separate matter.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:59 PM
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138. Yeah, Frasier will never not be awesome even though Kelsey Grammar is a wingnut
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 08:00 PM by WildEyedLiberal
Frasier will always be hysterical, and I'll be damned if I pretend to turn my nose up at it even as Grammar descends into full-blown teabaggery.
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joe black Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:27 PM
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150. Wasn't he convicted of child rape or something like that.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:36 AM
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190. No - i've never heard that
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:43 PM
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153. I think it's b/c of the natural connection/affinity people feel with artists through their work
That affinity, in turn, fuels further enjoyment of the work. (I think that's particularly true for film and television.) I think that's where that filter comes from, since finding out that someone is a wingnut interferes with that presumed connection.

I say this only to explain the filter--not that I apply it myself. I don't like Duvall's Tom Hagen (for example) any less since finding out that he supported bush. I still do like him as an actor. (Though I suppose the degree to which his presence in a film would make me more inclined to see it may have diminished ...)
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 12:31 AM
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175. If I don't like their politics I don't want to make them more money by spending any
on their work. THAT is why the work can't stand on its own. When I find out an actor is a right wing nut job it certainly colors how I view his or her work. And I generally refrain from watching them again.
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sweetloukillbot Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 03:29 AM
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196. Agree completely!
Mike Nelson's political views don't affect the humor of MST3K one bit - in fact I was shocked to find out how crazy right wing he was.

And as much as I despise him as a human being, I must admit that Ted Nugent's first three or four solo albums are great - Stranglehold and Cat Scratch Fever are guitar classics - I'd never pay to see the man in concert though because of the bullshit he spouts.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:15 AM
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206. Yes.
I've been a huge fan of Doris Day. Have been for years. I loved the movies she did with Rock Hudson, I loved the musicals ("Calamity Jane" and "The Pajama Game" are favorites). She was a fine dramatic actress. If anyone is deserving of one of those honorary Lifetime Achievement Academy Awards, it's Doris Day.

Yes, she's a Republican. Yes, she was a big fan of George W. Bush. Hell, she dated Ronald Reagan at one point. Which tells you, besides being a Republican, she has some questionable taste in men....

But you know....so what? I'm still a huge fan of hers. And I always will be.

And yes, I'm noticing that I'm posting here. god knows why.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:32 AM
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11. Janine Turner from "Northern Exposure". n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:36 PM
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59. I was upset when I heard about her politics. Northern Exposure is one of my most favorite shows.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:27 PM
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89. Since you bring up Northern Exposure, and someone mentioned Bo Derek...
Seems Bo's wingnuttery rubbed off on longtime boyfriend, John Corbett. Now there's a huge disappointment...
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:18 PM
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165. Oh, don't tell me
John Corbett is a wingnut. I'm so disillusioned.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:43 AM
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249. Same here.
I loved that show and was surprised about her politics.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:48 PM
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132. janine turner is particularly disgusting
she used to date Alex Baldwin. she then sat by on fox letting the host skewer him without offering any counterpoints. it was awful to see.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:33 AM
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12. I still love them
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 09:44 AM by pinboy3niner
Unless they are doing something that I think is destructive, I don't care about their politics any more than I care about my friends' politics.

I'll watch "Frasier" reruns anytime:) .

Ed. to add: I didn't care much for Patricia Heaton before, but she now stars in a VERY funny sitcom. Even if her politics are screwed up (not the same as mine), I'd still be happy to see her win an Emmy.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:50 PM
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135. i like frasier too. i just can't help being affected by someone's
politics if they are destructive. i think anyone who supported bush or gave money to bush in 2004 condoned the slaughter of innocent people and the stolen 2000 election.

people who are republican today are supporting an anti-american agenda. period.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:10 AM
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200. I realized early on that I loved "Frasier" for the supporting cast.
All my favorite episodes are ones that feature them. Kelsey Grammer? Meh.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:33 AM
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13. Delta Burke is in favor of equal rights for all people
Unlike say, Barack Obama, who is to the right of both me and Delta.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:40 AM
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18. Adam Sandler's on the list?
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 09:42 AM by geardaddy
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:02 AM
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30. Heather Locklear?
Shit!

She no longer stands a chance of getting it on with me. :banghead:
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:04 AM
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33. lol
I like your confidence!

I think I knew she was a Repuke.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:37 PM
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61. Rachel Hunter-that I could've guessed.
My husband met her once, and she was a huge bitch to him. All because her dog got out and he found the dog and returned it.

It's funny, I couldn't give a rat's ass about any of the celebs on that list.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:03 PM
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140. Wait! She was a bitch because your husband had the decency to return a dog?
That's terrible.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:06 PM
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141. Yep, she was snotty and nasty.
I wanted to punch her in the head and keep her dog.
Ugh.
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:59 AM
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199. Is that the model who used to date John Taylor (Duran Duran)?
At least he is a lefty, even did a Youtube diddy endorsing Obama. Glad they didn't have that in common. I could see how it would crush me if it was one of my true fan faves that turned out to be ugly inside, but I'd still enjoy the music.

I do remember when I was a teen seeing another side of Simon Le Bon, non political, that tainted my view of him. I didn't want him to be an a**hole, but seems he kind of was. Maybe that is why I went on to be attracted to the jerky types later, lol.

Bummer about Corbett, I guess I associate his character on NO with the person too much, which was part of the attraction for me, I admit. Guess in real life not that insightful.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:55 PM
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230. No, one of Rod Stewart's dumpees, er, wives, I believe.
Snotty anti-feminist #@##@#. Her, I don't know about him. :)
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 01:58 AM
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246. oh, she dated some other DD dude briefly
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 02:10 AM by freeplessinseattle
Robbie Williams, a replacement guy, and John dated a different Rachel. Simeonson or something. whatever, all these models and rock stars hard to keep it straight, ahd to google to figure it out. she sure looks like shit now, guess that's what hate will do to ya.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:50 AM
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210. Buffy's a Repuke?
:(
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:40 AM
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19. Jon Voight and Dennis Miller
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:51 AM
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24. Voight has, obviously, gone off the deep end
He may not be acting any more, but I will always admire him for his work in "Midnight Cowboy."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 08:34 PM
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139. Conrack. One of my favorite teaching movies.
I read the book before I saw the movie. True story.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrack_%281974_film%29
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:31 PM
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151. Uhhh. Dennis Miller has never been a celeb nor has he been a comedian!
:D

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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:41 AM
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20. Here's a list of some...
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:48 AM
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23. Pretty long list.
Apply your filters, everyone.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:03 AM
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31. That list is interesting Will
but I can tell you it is not fully accurate. I'm PMing you. A secret wedding gift.
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:56 AM
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45. About 80 to 90 percent of that list
are actors and actresses I never really liked...perhaps I was picking up something on an unconscious level? :shrug:
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:27 PM
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57. A lot of them are dead, not Republicans and barely celebrities (Yakov Smirnov?!?)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:32 PM
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90. In Soviet Russia job kills you. In new post-Soviet world career dies first!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:55 PM
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137. Most of them are has beens except the stars from the 40's and 50's
and the GOP was no more Conservative than today's Democratic party then.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:29 AM
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49. Jim Belushi's on the list, which doesn't surprise me
If you can, try to find one of David Cross' stories about working with Belushi. In Cross' book I Drink for a Reason, he finally comes out with why he slams Belushi every chance he gets. In addition to the story being hilarious, it also shows what a complete asshole Belushi is.

The short version: He and Cross were working on a movie and Cross approached him on behalf of a female bartender who wanted Belushi's autograph to give to her sick child and Belushi went off on a loud, obscenity-laced tirade. It got even worse when Cross tried to defend the woman.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:41 PM
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107. he may well be an ass, but I'm not convinced he's a republican
I think he supported Howard Dean in the '04 primary and has supported Hilary Clinton and Al Franken in their senate runs.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:17 PM
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54. Yaphet Kotto is a repuke?!?!?
Say it isn't so!!!!!
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:25 PM
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56. LOL @ that list. They have one of the kids from "Home Improvement" on there.
Talk about star power!
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:50 PM
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70. Interesting list
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 12:50 PM by RFKHumphreyObama
Just to comment on a few of those celebrities (most of whom are either washed up, b-grade celebrities and/or I've never heard of them)

Dixie Carter may have been a Republican (although I think she classed herself more as a libertarian) but she apparently was also strongly supportive of gay rights and she donated to Bill Clinton in the early 1990s so she doesn't seem like your run-of-the-mill wingnut

Nancy Cartwright has donated to Charles Grassley and James Rogan -both Republicans -but has also donated to congressman Brad Sherman, who is a Democrat
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Nancy_Cartwright.php

Bing Crosby, James Cagney, Helen Hayes et all are all deceased and most of them existed during a time when the GOP was significantly more moderate than it is now. Ginger Rogers campaigning for Thomas Dewey proves nothing -Dewey was to the left of quite a few of the DLC Democrats today

Nancy Reagan's a conservative? Gee, I would never have guessed!

Loretta Lynn is a close friend of Jimmy Carter and supported his presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980. She's also close to the * family but I've read she never really liked Reagan so I think that description of her as a Republican since at least Ronald Reagan isn't totally accurate

Wait...Ronald Reagan was a conservative? Gee, what gave that away?

Ron Silver, as I've said above, started to reconsider his right wing conservatism toward the end of his life and voted for Obama in 2008





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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:20 PM
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100. Cagney was a political liberal, for the record. n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:22 PM
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101. Joe Pesci can that be right?
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:30 AM
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208. i hope not
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:48 AM
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250. Loretta Lynn is anti-gay marriage and anti-gay rights too.
I remember a particularly painful interview I saw of her praising Bush and saying she was against gay rights.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:31 PM
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79. Oh GOD, not Donna Pinciotti . . . NOOOooooo . . .
Damn. There goes that fantasy down the crapper. :(
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:22 PM
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86. nooo, Adam Baldwin? Damn!
Fan of his. Crap!
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:35 PM
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152. Sad
Was hoping he took after his other brother.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:55 PM
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154. Such gorgeous 'teils... Mine died last week; I miss her so. nt
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:11 PM
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231. Sorry to hear about your featherbaby.
:hug:
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 01:36 PM
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217. no, he's the non-Baldwin brother, LOL
He was in Serenity, played "Jayne" and in the Firefly series, too - and in Independence Day and a gozillion other movies.

Damn shame. :(
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:49 PM
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120. Don't really care about any of those, no real surprises
A lot of them are old timers and/or washed up. Many of them I never liked at all.
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:20 PM
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158. A lot of them are dead.
Others are c/w performers. Others have no career since the '80s.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:11 PM
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142. Lists like that aren't exactly accurate.....
and just because someone is Republican doesn't necessarily mean they are/were a screwing nutbar.

I mean nowadays most are, but a lot of people mentioned are actually quite moderate.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:27 PM
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235. Agreed...
Some of the folks on that list have a long history of supporting causes for women, gays, the environment.

We all have our reasons for supporting one candidate over another. I prefer to try to keep separate my entertainment choices from my political ones, unless the person is a complete weenie (like some formerly funny comedians who are now just total arrogant wipes.)
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:15 PM
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145. I can't say I was a fan of almost any of them on the list
I've met Hal Holbrook and can say I respect and admire him as a person and an actor. I'll always like a lot of Heston's movies: Ben Hur, 10 Commandments, Planet of the Apes, Omega Man, Earthquake...Sorry, I'm a sucker for these flicks, I don't care what his political views were later in life. Duvall, Caan...like their stuff, too.

Many of the others: eh...never liked most of them anyway.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:04 PM
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219. Buddy Ebsen...
I can't believe he was left off that long list.

He and Nancy Kulp (Miss Jane) had some pretty serious political differences that played out during the time they were doing the Beverly Hillbillies (and after).
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:42 AM
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21. MEL GIBSON /eot.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:44 PM
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130. gibson is very disappointing
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:44 PM
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131. gibson is very disappointing
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:53 AM
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26. You EVER liked Patricia Heaton and Kelsey Grammer?
BTW, the fat dude who took over for Bob Barker on the Price is Right is another wing nut asswipe.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:39 PM
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80. drew carey. eom
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:00 PM
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156. A puke from Parma. Changed Bob Barker's "commie" policies
"During Carey's second year as host, he began to write some of the various sketches used during the showcase, returning old aspects of the show that had been removed by Barker (restoring on-camera appearances by the announcer and removing bans on leather goods, wool coats and imported cars), bringing additional guest appearances on the show with CBS crossovers, especially by replacing the show's models for musical instruments with live performances by endorsers of musical instruments,"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Carey
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:40 AM
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195. i actually really used to like both of them
i had a crush on heaton. no more.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:57 AM
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213. Drew Carey is a wingnut, but he's done some cool stuff.
He financed the purchase of several blow-up sex dolls dressed in Chivas USA uniforms, each labeled "(player's) Mom" :evilgrin:, for one of the LA Galaxy supporters squads for their first match in 2005. And he's one of the main backers of and driving force behind the Seattle Sounders, who are easily the coolest team in MLS.

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:57 AM
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27. Wrung out tea bags.....
you are correct they must think attaching themselves to hate, violence and urging the destruction of our government will magically make them prosperous again. No way no how.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:57 AM
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28. Hey, I Still Like Buddy Ebsen
Maybe personal politics are more palatable if you're folksy.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:20 PM
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147. I don't like him.....
How he hurt and embarrassed his co-worker running for office. Not the sign of a classy gentleman.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:32 PM
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161. Yep, he really trashed Nancy Kulp
Ebsen was a wingnut who actively campaigned for her opponent because he considered Nancy a liberal. I'm sure the fact that she was gay probably irritated him too, the old bastard.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:52 PM
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227. Right......
He was openly cruel to her. No respect for her as a person.

You just don't humiliate and hurt a person that way. :( Poor gal.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:01 AM
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29. Why would an artist's personal life determine if I'll enjoy them? . . .
If I like an artist's work and appreciate their craft, I enjoy them for the power and pleasure of their work and words. If their ideas are tainted, if their political or social beliefs intrude and poison their work, I reject it because I find the work disagreeable.

How can I shut out art for unrelated influences? Provided the art doesn't forward the objectionable ideals, it should be judged on its merits. Should I reject Ezra Pound, one of the foremost poets of the twentieth century, because he spoke favorably for Mussolini? Can Celine's literary work be ignored because of his antisemitism? And if the artists are to be shunned for their beliefs, what of those who took their aid or who cite them as major influences? Pound edited The Wasteland and was credited by Eliot as "the better craftsman" (il miglior fabbro). Vonnegut attributed some of his ideas to Celine and acknowledged his debt to him for his impact on his writing style. So, as with all considerations of boycott and rejection, we're faced with the overriding consideration: How far do we go? How absolute shall we be?
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 01:02 AM
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177. It's only about who we choose to reward with our money
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:05 AM
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34. Does that mean you don't/didn't like Jerry Doyle on "Babylon 5"?
He's now a rightwing talk show host out of Las Vegas and has illusions about being an author.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:13 PM
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78. B5 was one of my all-time favorite shows
But I was not suprised about Doyle. Him being a wing-nut doesn't make me like the show any less.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:32 AM
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258. did you hear this week that Kelsey Grammar is using his money
to start a right-wing network?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:06 AM
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35. K Grammar was a shock to me
Now I see him as being mocking in every episode.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:23 AM
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40. Frasier is still one of my favorite sitcoms
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 01:46 AM
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182. I still love that one too, although I think that its success is due more to the
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 01:49 AM by BlueMTexpat
ensemble cast. Frasier is pretty much of an a** - Grammer just plays himself. Miles was my favorite character and I thought that David Hyde Pierce's portrayal was outstanding.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:24 PM
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102. I once asked a limo driver who the worst celebrity he ever drove around was
and he said K Grammar.

Evidently he is a much better actor than I thought because I always thought he came across as a cool guy.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:09 AM
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37. Charlton Heston was a liberal
and with the magic of cinema you can watch his good young liberal movies and ignore his older turd conservative ones.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:25 AM
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48. LOL
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:24 PM
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103. Well he did support the civil rights movement and made some "liberal" sci-fi films like
Planet of the Apes and Soylet Green.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:47 AM
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43. I don't have that list
but mine is "Celebrities I once liked, then found out they were digusting Scientologists."

Beck
Jason Lee
Giovanni Ribisi
Kirstie Alley

I'm sure there are more (and this doesn't even touch the celebrities I never liked who also got sucked in by this con), but everytime I find out about another one, my heart breaks a little bit more, so I've stopped loooking.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:52 PM
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91. Wait... Beck? Please tell me that isn't true.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:18 PM
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99. It's sadly (sadly) soooo true -- and I hate it.
And he's apparently been one forever, too. He's married to Giovanni Ribisi's sister.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck

Scientology

Beck has been involved in Scientology for most of his life; his wife is also a second-generation Scientologist. Marissa and her twin brother, Giovanni, were delivered by Beck's mother, Bibbe. Beck publicly acknowledged his affiliation with the controversial religion for the first time in an interview published in The New York Times Magazine on March 6, 2005. Further confirmation came in an interview with the Irish Sunday Tribune's iMagazine on June 11, 2005, where he was quoted as saying, "Yeah, I'm a Scientologist. My father has been a Scientologist for about 35 years, so I grew up in and around it." When questioned by the interviewer about Scientology's core beliefs, he replied:

What it actually is is just sort of, uh, you know, I think it's about philosophy and sort of, uh, all these kinds of, you know, ideals that are common to a lot of religions....There's nothing fantastical...just a real deep grassroots concerted effort for humanitarian causes. I don't know if you know the stuff they have. It's unbelievable the stuff they are doing. Education...they have free centres all over the place for poor kids. They have the number one drug rehabilitation programme in the entire world (called Narconon). It has a 90-something percent success rate...When you look at the actual facts and not what's conjured in people's minds that's all bullshit to me because I've actually seen stuff first hand.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:53 AM
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211. He was born into it
You can't exactly hate on someone for something they were born into.
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belpejic Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:50 PM
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163. Elisabeth Moss. So sad. n/t
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:29 AM
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198. will smith too :(
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:54 PM
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229. "Beck"
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 05:56 PM by awoke_in_2003
I hope that is the wannabe Beck and not the real one (Jeff)

on edit: should have scrolled down a bit more. Leaving the original just because Jeff Beck is the only true Beck :)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:46 PM
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232. And the smarter one
:)
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 12:52 AM
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245. the real Beck
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:51 PM
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256. Delightful
And a little bonus Jools Holland in there, too. Nice.

I saw Jeff Beck and Stevie Ray Vaughan a few weeks before Stevie died. It was one of the most amazing shows I'd ever seen.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:50 AM
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44. I'm glad there aren't many in Hollywood. I would hate to have to sit through RW movies.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:12 AM
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47. Consider that more are liberals, so conservatives are faced with this more often
In fact, Governor Christie, in 2004 wrote a column for his local paper complaining that it was hard on fans, like him, that Bruce Springstein did the rallies for Kerry. Christie attended hundreds of Springstein concerts - but not the Kerry one. He was brain dead enough to ask Springstein to sing at his Inaugural event - and as you would guess was turned down. (He had a cover band perform).
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:33 AM
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50. I don't care much about actor's politics
I try to just focus on their acting unless they say something extremely outrageous.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:13 PM
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53. The only problem I have with conservative/right wing entertainers
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 12:14 PM by Grand Taurean
are those who are hypocrites. They are the first ones to scream about freedom and the evils of censorship, yet the first ones to shout down and demand the left to shut up and get in line. Also, they are the first ones to question the patriotism of anyone who is not like them.
They have questioned the patriotism of their political opponents. This rings especially true with the country "music" gang.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:23 PM
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55. Dennis Hopper
scarily RW.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:43 PM
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65. see my post 58.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:51 PM
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71. He supported and voted for Obama in 2008
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:37 PM
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62. Jimmy Stewart
I loved Jimmy Stewart as a kid and looked forward to watching IAWL with my mom every Christmas. Turns out he was kind of a dick. Oh well.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:14 PM
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97. At least Stewart served in the military with distinction
That's more than I can say about a lot of them.

I really couldn't care less about an actor's political beliefs.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 06:33 PM
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127. His "political belief" was that black people were "bossing around" white people too much
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 06:44 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
That is a little beyond "I believe in supply side economics"
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:54 PM
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228. He stated that?
That's terrible.

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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:36 PM
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238. Here:
"NBC producer Hal Kanter was shocked when Stewart insisted on firing black actor Hal Williams from The Jimmy Stewart Show. Kanter recalled, "One day somebody comes running into my office and says you better get down and see Jimmy, he is absolutely furious. I go down to his dressing room, and he's really hot. The problem was he had just found out that we were casting Hal Williams and he related that to a script for a show in which there was a cop lashing into the professor character. 'Blacks are bossing white people all over the country,' he says to me angrily, 'and now we're going to have the same damn thing on prime time television? A black is going to be lecturing me with millions of people watching? No way. I get casting approval and Williams is out.'"
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:28 AM
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253. Oh, damn.
I used to like him. I didn't know he was that much of an asshole. :puke:
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:27 PM
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160. Actually, Jimmy Stewart wasn't a jerk.
He may have been a Republican, but didn't club people over the head with it.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:34 PM
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237. LOL, except when he provided a bunch of names to HUAC and testified as a "closed door witness"
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:38 PM
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63. Right wingers are bad actors as a general rule.
The only real exception being Robert Duvall. Everyone on that list is a hack as an actor.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:55 PM
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74. Clint Eastwood? n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:10 PM
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94. You can't really call Clint a right winger.
At best, he's a moderate and a pretty good guy. Also, he's a way better director than he is an actor.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:58 PM
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123. He's a libertarian.
His motto: "Everybody should just leave everyone else the hell alone."
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:56 AM
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212. He also said:
"I never really thought of myself as a conservative. Of course, I am no ultra-leftist either."

Clint is one helluva great director, and his subject matter surely isn't friendly with Hannity-style wingnuttery. "Unforgiven" shows that violence doesn't solve anything - it just begets more violence. "Million Dollar Baby" makes a convincing case for death with dignity. "Flags Of Our Fathers" deconstructs many of the myths of WW2 and Iwo Jima (revolving around the true story behind the flag raising), showing war as brutal, dehumanizing, and devastating. Its companion film "Letters From Iwo Jima" shows the all-too-human side of the Japanese soldiers during that war. "Gran Torino" is a powerful story of a bigot's quest for redemption. "Invictus" is about Nelson Mandela and the power for forgiveness and reconciliation. None of these films are fodder for a wingnut. (Even the second Dirty Harry film "Magnum Force" is a response to critics who felt that his character was too fascist, by having Harry take on vigilante rogue 'death squad' cops - the kind Glenn Beck would cream his Depends over).
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:27 AM
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252. Robert Duvall is one I will watch act gladly, even knowing he's a conservative.
He is just a great actor, in my mind. Period.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:41 PM
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64. Most of these, with a few exceptions, are not great actors.
I'd take them for what they are and if Voight gives a good performance, then it's a good performance.

Ezra Pound's politics were terrible. His poetry created the language for 20th cent. American poetry.

Good work is good work. You can separate the dreamer for the dream. (Not that Pound and Voight shouldn't be held accountable for their politics, of course.)
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:45 PM
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68. Suzanne Summers,Cheryl Ladd and I heard Heather Locklear was and
Still might be but I still like Heather can't help it. :crazy:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:39 PM
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223. damn, I can give up Suzanne Summers...
but Cheryl Ladd?
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:49 PM
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69. I do not care what political party or religious belief an entertainer has.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:52 PM
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72. Not one teaspoon of talent in the lot of them
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:54 PM
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73. Kelsey Grammer is such a good actor I can excuse his politics
Patricia Heaton is annoying but I can still watch her in Everybody Loves Raymond (partly because I know there are enough liberals on the show to balance her out)

Delta Burke hasn't really been in anything much recently
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:01 PM
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76. I know what you mean
I was saddened to learn that my favorite Monkee, Micky Dolenz, is apparently a Teabagger.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:40 PM
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81. Andy Garcia.
Too bad. He's a great actor.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:46 PM
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82. I don't dislike a celebrity or boycott his/her work based on their politics...
...so long as the work remains seperate from their politics, that is.

Am I disappointed to learn a celebrity whose work I like is a Republican? Sure....I can say I was sad to learn about Craig T. Nelson because I found him hilarious on "Coach" and on some other works of his. But who cares? If he makes me laugh in doing his job, I don't care.

I have to admit I was upset about one of the Zucker brothers (of "Airplane" and "Naked Gun" fame) who turned out to be a major Republican and made that "American Carol" dreck. But that's because his politics ended up seaping into his work.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:25 PM
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87. performance arts is different BUT I ask you this
if Goebbels turned out to be the finest violin player (your example goes here) in the world, would you still be a fan?

I know it's an extreme example but there are limits to how far down the road someone goes before I want to reward the quality of artist, and not just their skill.

I personally think I have to connect to an artist, even a performance artist in more ways than just the performance - especially in the communication age. It does matter to me that someone can be paid 10's or hundreds of thousands of dollars an episode, and turn right around and use that money to pay to keep us from having human and civil rights. So in that case, it's also an economic matter of self preservation, even if it's only a token act.

I COULD not hear Goebbels playing the violin. And I'm profoundly disappointed in Patricia Heaton actually on record donating money against us on Prop Hate.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:21 PM
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115. If there was any celebrity complicit in an actual genocide (and there may have been, I don't know)..
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 05:23 PM by Tommy_Carcetti
...yes, I don't know if I could enjoy their work, as talented as it might be.

But Craig T. Nelson/Patricia Heaton/Kelsey Grammar (or whatever your run of the mill conservative celebrity) is no Goebbels, and the issues of general debate in this country aren't as extreme as to the extermination of millions of people, so....
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:04 AM
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207. of course not
unless they happen to be firmly against my civil rights, so . . . . can't get past that.

Sorry you felt compelled to marginalize my argument, so...

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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 12:10 PM
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214. Zucker was one of those 9/11 converts
He was pretty liberal before then (the anti-Reagan joke in 'Airplane!' is just a small example). He admitted as much in an interview when 'Carol' came out. Ron Silver had the same syndrome.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:59 PM
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92. As a rule, I find that actors are kind of dumb and uneducated.
All you got to do is watch celebrity jeopardy a few times to see that too many actors are dumber than dirt.

Which explains a lot about this list.

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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:05 PM
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93. I just canceled my belonging to Dion Dimucci's facebook fan group
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 03:36 PM by abq e streeter
when he submitted a glowing post to the wonderful Sarah Palin. I know Dion beat his heroin addiction through God and religion, and I don't begrudge him that,and had read more than one post of his talking about "The Lord" and the church without any problem or objection....But jeez ( no pun intended) , many intelligent progressive people are very religious, church-going people; it doesn't, despite the opinion to the contrary, of some DUers, automatically turn you into a zombie...But while I still am a huge fan of his music, and always will be, I don't think I can ever again listen to a Palin-worshiper sing "didn't you love the things they stood for" about Martin Luther King, and John and Bobby Kennedy, knowing he embraces dangerous hateful demagogues who would, if they could, undo everything MLK and the others did, or tried to accomplish. Broke my heart to find that out about Dion.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:13 PM
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95. I'm more into dead actors. I was really disappointed to learn that
Irene Dunne who appeared in some of my favorite old movies was a ferocious conservative and a big time ronnie raygun supporter. I recently learned that Steve McQueen, in spite of his Mr. Cool, persona was very conservative. I'm glad that I was never into him. OTOH, I learned that Robert Ryan was a big time liberal. So much so that when he worked with John Wayne, he couldn't stand the guy because of his conservative politics.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:27 PM
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104. I'm not as upset over older stars like Jimmy Stewart--because the GOP of their day wasn't quite as
wacko as the GOP of today is.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:15 PM
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144. No more Eisenhower Republicans.........
I kind of resent moderate stars being lumped in with all the wingnuts. :)

Actors like Reagan, Ginger Rogers, Robert Taylor, etc, who apparently had rigid right-wing views were in a world apart.
Though I'm surprised about Jimmy Stewart's apparent racist views. Hmmm.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:29 PM
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105. You don't have to be smart to be an actor, just have a disproportionately large head
The problem is we watch these people so we think we know them. So it stands to reason we are disappointed when it turns out they aren't what we hoped. I thought most of the people on that list were hacks without even knowing their politics, but it still bums me out that John Wayne was such a moron. Not just conservative, I mean you kind of expect that from people with that persona, but a dolt. A blacklisting, McCarthyite dolt.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:18 PM
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146. Really? That's kind of insulting to those in the profession.
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 09:18 PM by Darth_Kitten
Acting is a profession just like any other. Most actors I know are pretty wise, intelligent,good people. Very open-minded.

Don't toss the baby out with the bathwater.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:24 PM
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166. I didn't say you "couldn't" be smart and be an actor, I said it wasn't a requirement.
Stephen Baldwin, for example, is an actor.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:51 PM
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226. haha!
Stephen Baldwin, well, yeah, that's a good example. ;)
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:40 PM
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106. What about somebody like Cary Grant who supported RFK in '68 and Reagan in '80
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:36 PM
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242. I think a lot of movie stars supported Reagan because they were
friends of his more than for his political views. Frank Sinatra did and he was a liberal from way backk.
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mikeSchmuckabee Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 04:26 PM
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110. Didn't kelsey grammer and patricia heaton have a sitcom?
that lasted like 22 minutes too long. I hear the commercials were good.

Seriously, "celebrities" and their politics are a pretty shaky relationship.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 04:47 PM
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111. Lucky me: never liked any of them, thought all were full of the stupid.
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 04:47 PM by Warren Stupidity
Ain't one on your list worth ten minutes of my life.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 04:57 PM
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112. SCOTT BAIO
Karl Malone
John Stockton
(no one knows they are)
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Soulis Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 01:13 AM
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179. Scott Baio???
:rofl:
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 12:26 PM
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215. isn't he off the deep end now, owns a survivalist outfitter or some such?
I guess I'm too lazy to google him.

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:03 PM
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113. It's ridiculous when right-wingers boycot entertainers because of their politics,
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 05:04 PM by Marr
and it's just as silly when left-wingers do it.

I could not care less about their politics. If I enjoy their work, I enjoy their work.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:50 PM
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122. Good for you.
:eyes:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 06:42 PM
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128. Thanks.
:hi:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:57 PM
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155. it is almost like a religion for some folks 'So and so is a jew/muslim/etc?' I can't watch them
childish IMHO. What next, check the creds of authors before we read their novels?
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:17 PM
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164. It seems like the trend is for people to wall themselves off into little ideological cocoons.
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 11:20 PM by Marr
People choose their media outlets to have their opinions reinforced, for instance-- not to learn anything new. They read books they already agree with, and avoid reading things that don't support the ideas they want to believe. Apparently they even wall themselves off from actors-- frigging actors-- who don't agree with them politically.

It's pathetic. It is a lot like religion, as you said. It's exactly the same thing fundamentalists do with criticism of their beliefs. They just reject it out of hand, and wear their ignorance as a badge of purity.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 12:40 AM
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176. I choose where I spend my money. And I don't have to spend it on films
with people whose politics I don't like. Especially when they use that fame and money to denigrate MY politics.

I don't go out of my way to put money into the pockets of people who are a detriment to me. And avoiding certain works of fiction is a hell of a lot different than eschewing actual news in order to watch a fake news channel that serves propaganda.

Not wanting to watch certain actors is not the same as rejecting facts.

For you to conflate the two is extremely disingenuous and a needless dig to boot.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 01:54 AM
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183. +1
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:06 AM
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185. Seems like the same thing to me.
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 02:11 AM by Marr
It's taking that mental cocoon to a ridiculous extreme. You're talking about people who aren't even writing the words they're speaking. If you choose to pass on movies/music/plays/tv shows/whatever because you don't want to put a dollar into the pocket of someone you disagree with, that's your prerogative. I think it's ridiculous, personally. I thought it was silly when the right did it to the Dixie Chicks, and it's silly here, too.

Really- what did you think of that whole Dixie Chicks fiasco? Didn't it seem rather indicative of a certain belligerent closed-mindedness?
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:58 AM
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204. What's ridiculous is your notion that what one chooses as far as pop culture is concerned
is the same as choosing what is and is not news based on the politics of the channel that's having it read to you. In addition, it's one thing to personally decide you don't want to indulge in one form of pop culture and another to decide no one else can indulge in it which is what happened with the Dixie Chicks. I don't see anyone saying that the movies and television shows that these actors are in should be taken off the air which the right wing tools (enabled by a right wing radio corporation) did. And I sure as hell didn't say that either. I'm saying that I will not take MY money and pay to watch movies, or give eyes for a television show for actors who use the fame they gained through their acting to spout off on politics that are a detriment to what *I* think should be worked for. It's no more ridiculous than people who decide they don't want to have 50 cent perform on their college campus because they find his music to be misogynistic.

The Dixie Chicks were being tossed off the air for their views. No one here is calling for that. No one is calling for book and DVD burnings because they don't like the politics of the author or actor in it either. When that happens THEN we can make the comparison with what happened to the Dixie Chicks. In the meantime, you're arguing apples and oranges.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:31 PM
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116. Fred Astaire & William Holden
Gene Kelly was a lib, and his wife Betsy Blair was even more so to the point of being blacklisted. I guess Gene was such a huge moneymaker that they gave him a pass.

Holden hated when Bogart and his pals went to D.C. to protest the witch hunts.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:49 PM
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121. Fred a Who???
:cry:
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:36 PM
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117. Delta Burke :(
What a shame...I always had a "thang" for her fine full-figured frame :P :(
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:43 PM
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118. Robert Duvall and Clint Eastwood are the only decent actors out of all
the RW actors. The rest pretty much suck anyway.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:47 PM
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119. Bruce Willis, Dennis Miller
Although Bruce Willis' affection for the rightwing was pretty much a schoolgirl crush on George W Bush, which may have cooled or ebbed by now.

Dennis Miller, what a loser. His short lived TV comedy show was so unpopular, I heard they couldn't even PAY many people to be in the studio audience.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 06:05 PM
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126. I think Bruce Willis became more of a libertarian type.
I believe he's a Truther as well.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 06:02 PM
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125. Multi-Millionaires trend Republican, eh?
:o
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:10 PM
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129. Who cares? They have no influence.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:14 PM
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143. Just the wingnuts...
They are the only ones who care enough to make lists of celebrities. I don't know about y'all, but I have never seen anyone take the time to write up a list of "Democratic celebrities" like the one posted above for repugs. Funny thing, considering they're always using "celebrity" as a derogatory term, just as they always condemn Hollywood. They hate celebrities, yet they're so desperate to prove that the evil liberals don't have a monopoly on famous people. Kind of pathetic when you think about it.
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:36 PM
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162. There's an entire website
devoted to Liberal celebrities!
http://www.liberalartists.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=topics

And not derogatory!
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:49 PM
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134. Give them a break. Rightwingers hate our celelbs on the left. The only
difference we have more and they make good points.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:51 PM
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136. Craig T Nelson is in the new Parenthood show
and his character is really boring.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:12 AM
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203. To be fair, that whole show is boring. (n/t)
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:28 PM
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221. Yes, and I'm disappointed.
All those great actors, and yet somehow the show is boring and lackluster. Such a waste of talent.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:39 PM
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222. So was the movie. n/t
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:25 PM
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168. I knew their was a reason I never liked any of them....they were also crappy actors
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:27 PM
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169. And to think I used to admire Sellek, now I can't stand to even hear his voice on an OJ commercial.
:puke: I squeeze my own az oranges. I starve and die of scurvy or gout before I'd drink the shit he advertises.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:28 PM
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170. David Mamet has been the hardest for me because his work changed.
He is the most brilliant American writer since Arthur Miller, but his work since 9/11 has taken a decidedly right-wing turn.

It's unfortunate.
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Soulis Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 12:27 AM
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174. He's a playwright
And he should stick to that, as his movies all sound like stage productions.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:31 PM
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171. If I allowed an actor's politics to dictate what I watch, I would miss out on a lot...
I used to feel that way when it came to actors like Robert Duvall, Kelsey Grammer, and much more. I realized that despite their politics, they can do some good work.
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 12:03 AM
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172. Roger Waters main songwriter, bass guitarist and vocalist of Pink Floyd
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 12:08 AM by ArnoldLayne
and David Gilmour lead guitarist and vocalist also of Pink Floyd has progressive political beliefs. But Roger Waters especially is a very left-wing progressive. He has stated in the past he is actually a Socialist his mother was according to him a Socialist Party member in England.
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 12:13 AM
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173. Michael Stipe singer songwriter of REM is very left-wing
Joe Strummer of The Clash also was.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 01:10 AM
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178. John Malkovich and Jon Voight are two of my favorite actors and they are both right-wing nuts
I guess being a great actor like being a great mechanic or a great dentist or whatever is largely a skill that has little to nothing to do with someone's worldview.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 01:25 AM
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180. Adam Sandler........dammit! ah, not Drew Cary too! nt.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 01:26 AM
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181. Sport stars
A Rod contributed to GW Bush theft of the oval office.Most over paid sport figures are inclined to vote republican.(Greed).
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:02 AM
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184. Freddie Prinze, Jr. was my biggest disappointment. Once I find out,
I can't bear to watch or listen to them anymore. Wish I could put their politics aside, but I just can't. And for all the "broad minded" people here who say it shouldn't matter, you're fuckin' hypocrites. If you support these rightwing assholes, you financially support the rightwing causes they espouse.

Spend your money however you choose, but don't scold those of us who won't support rightwing "performers", and their causes. Talent my ass.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:26 AM
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188. Oh, bull.
You don't support every cause of every person you've ever passed a dollar to. What are your grocer's politics? Your mechanic's? How about your dentist?

Besides, when it comes to things like art or writing, to dismiss the work of people you disagree with is to miss the entire point. I'm not sure that really applies to actors, but it certainly does to writers, musicians, etc. There is nothing more boring that listening to someone you agree with.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:38 AM
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192. i can't monitor every dollar, but i am sensitive once i find out
for example:

i shop at Costco and spend lots of money there.

i don't shop at Walmart.

Why would we give money to repugs when we can support Democrats?
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:38 AM
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193. I know exactly where my hard earned dollars are spent. I gave up my favorite
restaurant in '04 when I learned the management had maxxed out to Bush, and made donations to Liddy Dole. Haven't been back. I haven't set foot in Walmart since they ran a full page ad in support of Liddy Dole in their employee newsletter, and that's nearly ten years ago. I only support American automakers (GMC) for the past 30 yrs. So, you bet your ass, I'm careful where I spend my money.

I wish more "progressives" were equally as careful.

As for my mechanic, I've never seen him on the teevee telling me who the hell to vote for. That was dumbass question, but it doesn't surprise me.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:04 AM
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205. Most of these actors aren't on television telling you who to vote for, either.
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 10:19 AM by Marr
What did you think of the Dixie Chicks debacle? Did you think those right-wing activists looked responsible and ideologically pure... or just idiotic?

There's a big difference between not shopping at Wal-Mart and refusing to watch a movie because one of the actors disagrees with you about politics.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 04:54 PM
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218. I don't see the difference, and fortunately for me, I don't have to.
You patronize whoever the hell you like, and I'll do the same. No rightwing actors, "celebrities", for me. We can argue about this to infinity, but neither you nor anyone else could pay me enough to patronize these assholes who are diametrically opposed to damned near everything I stand for.

But as long as they've got you, they probably shouldn't worry about little old me.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:39 AM
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194. i completely agree with you
i don't give repugs my money.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:49 PM
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244. It makes a difference to me, too. The future of our country is just too
important. So, yes, I'm not going to give any of my hard-earned money to people who hold views so much in opposition to mine. We're fortunate to have so many alternatives. Am I missing anything by not listening to Charlie Daniel's music? No. Or Ted Nugent's? No. Or watching a sitcom with any of these actors I barely recognize? I'm not missing anything. So, I'll keep giving my money to the libs. The ones who openly give voice to my beliefs. Bought my first Dixie Chicks CD when Natalie Maines spoke from the heart about Bush. And you know what? I like it.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:20 AM
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186. I don't boycott them, but I admit to seein gthem in a differnt light....
especially when they play a "liberal" role.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:24 AM
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187. There is nothing about being an actor that means someone is not an idiot.
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 02:28 AM by Hissyspit
Plenty of people are idiots and some of them make a living by pretending to be someone they are not, becaue they are good at it.
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:37 AM
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191. Clark Gable
:cry:
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:05 PM
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220. In all fairness Clark Gable seemed like quite a decent guy
From Wikipedia's entry on Hattie McDaniel
The competition to play Mammy in Gone with the Wind (1939) had been almost as stiff as that for Scarlett O'Hara. Eleanor Roosevelt wrote to film producer David O. Selznick to ask that her own maid, Elizabeth McDuffie, be given the part.<10> McDaniel did not think she would be chosen, because she was known for being a comic actress. Clark Gable recommended the role go to McDaniel; when she went to her audition dressed in an authentic maid's uniform, she won the part.<11>

The Loew's Grand Theatre on Peachtree Street in Atlanta, Georgia, was selected as the theater for the premiere of Gone with the Wind, Friday, December 15, 1939. When the date of the Atlanta premiere approached, all the black actors were barred from attending and excluded from being in the souvenir program. David Selznick had attempted to bring Hattie McDaniel, but MGM advised him not to because of Georgia's segregationist laws, which would have required McDaniel to stay in a segregated "blacks-only" hotel and prevented her from sitting in the theater with her white peers. Clark Gable angrily threatened to boycott the Atlanta premiere unless McDaniel was allowed to attend, but McDaniel convinced him to attend anyway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattie_McDaniel#Gone_with_the_Wind
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 03:39 AM
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197. I only know two people on that list and I am not impressed by their acting
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 03:39 AM by Incitatus
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:18 AM
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201. Hey, we got Andy and Opie, need I say more?
:shrug:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:27 AM
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202. hank jr
fuck him and the mountain that he fell from
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 12:28 PM
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216. The world brimming with things and people to dislike
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 12:29 PM by sui generis
I'll be a little zen here and say we should not define ourselves by our dislikes and disappointments, generally speaking.

That's what they do.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:28 PM
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236. I never liked any of 'em except Chuck. n/t
n/t
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Synicus Maximus Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:08 PM
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239. I don't really care about their political views only if they are good at
what they do. I have never been swayed by some actors or sports figures endorsement. Let me have someone who actually may have a clue.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:17 PM
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240. I've got you all beat... Jerry Doyle!!!
He was on "Babylon 5" and I never missed an episode.


Now he is a RW talk radio nut job who has written a book "Have you seen my country lately"

:puke:
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:18 PM
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241. James Earl Jones is a Republican?
I just read that somewhere.

That's a damn shame. I've always liked his work.

Another one I'm disappointed with is Catherine Hicks. I've liked her in everything I've seen
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:41 PM
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243. I have no problem separating an actor from the part and the movie...
Where I draw the line is when an actor makes a movie to sell his or her point of view as gospel.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:08 AM
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248. James Woods turned out not only to be GOP, but a horrid racist as well
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 03:09 AM by Adenoid_Hynkel
Always thought he seemed like a cool, quirky guy. He starred in good stuff like 'Salvador,' so I figured his politics leaned left.

Then he does interviews where he refers to arabs as "diaperheads."
Yup, he's a dick.
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