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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:00 PM Original message |
***The McVeigh Tapes with Rachel Maddow - official thread*** |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. The gunbagger idol. Revealed. nt |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. nt |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. Can't do it. Seems way too depressing to me. But I'll check out this |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. The first part is about the horrific explosion |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. so far very depressing |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. This is what the teabaggers want |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
79. Sean Hannity, "There's a lot of McVeigh wannabes out there" to tea bagger audience of radicals... |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
80. Tea Baggers are lusting for violence... |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
115. exactly we have our own militias in the US scary very scary indeed |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. This still unnerves me! |
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blaze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. 15 minutes in |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. Cowards like McVeigh pick easy targets. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. He claimed to be looking for the location with the |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Must've missed that daycare. I hope he is suffering |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. No, women and chidren died at Waco |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. That is true, they weren't the "collateral damage" he was avoiding. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
85. Can you clarify your statement, "If you don't believe in hell, he didn't"? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
107. I think she meant, and I could be wrong, but I took it to me that he |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
41. I haven't watched the video yet |
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PSzymeczek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
77. He's dead. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. I know. I hope he believed in something after death. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
116. he was very sick indeed, he cried for David Koresch but |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. Ah yes, we get to look at what makes people like him |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I worry about some of the details |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I knew the day it happened that it wasn't a furiegner |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
44. I knew that too |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Of course not, but you and I were in the minority |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. Well, I'd been listening to the Art Bell show at night |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
59. She hadn't heard of the posse c? Incredible that those who think that way are so ignorant |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Most americans do not know, to this day, who the possee are |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
76. I knew that too, instantly. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
104. MOSAIC saved your life |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
106. John Doe #2? nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
9. dupe |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. All six of us are watching. nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I suspct more than six |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Some are out cold... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Talking about his upbringing |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. thank you so we don't have to. You forgot one thing though. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. LOL |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. That is better. Thanks for blogging this. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
17. Does anyone know if this will be aired online? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I'm sure there's a DUer who can give you a link |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Thanks... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Cool |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. TVPC.com. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. You can watch MSNBC anytime here |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Thanks...n/t |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
25. I find Rachel's narrator voice very soothing... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Same here |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Me too. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. He's now in love with a bumper sticker |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. 'he finds like-minded thinkers on the gun show circuit.' nt |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
31. Paging the Gungeon...to the white courtesy phone! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Oh com'on you think they will even aproach it? |
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madamesilverspurs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
32. Fascinating, but |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Two hour show |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. McVeigh loads the truck by himself |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Man, could you imagine being that guy or kid who went fishing? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I'm betting he found out during the trial |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. No, not batshit crazy, in the zone |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. No, the dude was a psychopath |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. I always differentiate between |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. Wingnuts worship a mentally ill man. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Damn he's arrogant as well |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Having met some real scum as patients |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
101. Why I see him as a perfect soldier but not a true soldier |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. can only catch bits & peices so far... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. KO's repeat will be at 11.00pm |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. The tapes would have gone public no matter what... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. This is history |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. The coward ran away |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
71. This is the part I want to see |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
54. Yes Potok you are right, this is a man with no concept of emotions |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Here's a list of sociopathic traits, I've put McVeigh's in bold type |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. He's full of it alright |
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tallahasseedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
60. Very interesting... |
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Born_A_Truman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
62. Amazing he was arrest for traffic violations... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. That's because he had an unlicensed |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
109. He had a license plate falling off his car . . . and a gun and no permit ... |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
63. Tea Baggers would love to build a statue of McVeigh as one of their gods of violence... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Yep, McVeigh is the hero of the teabaggers. n/t |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
65. He keeps his head up defiantly as he leaves the Starbucks... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
67. Realize folks, this is a critical pioece of history |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Exactly. n/t |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Look at these victims |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Yeah. That's really getting to me. |
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Sheltiemama (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 02:30 AM Response to Reply #72 |
110. The brother of a woman I worked with died there. |
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DeschutesRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. There will always be lone wolfs out there, and periodically, they will strike. nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Oh absolutely |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
68. He seems very ego-centric... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. What an angry bitter arrogant |
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Lindsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
105. I missed the first 30 minutes but watched the rest. I thought it |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. sounds just like Manson. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
78. Tim separated his abilty to have emphathy |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
103. He probably couldn't |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
84. Tim McVeigh is the best argument for life with no parole |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I agree with you 100% |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. It certainly has sucked for the Manson gang |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #84 |
96. Yep. He might have been here where Nichols resides: |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
89. Well, that was grim |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. The tapes only made me dislike that scumbag |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
90. His ashes were spread at an undisclosed location... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Very good |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
93. Stunning is all I can say |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
94. Well there you have it folks |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. They should have showed his dead body on that slab |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. In the US? We are too wussie bout things like that! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #98 |
112. THey had no problem showing Sadam's body |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Them are brown people |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. He saw himself as a martyr. n/t |
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NotThisTime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
100. I didn't remember this Michael Fornier (sp?) |
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Sheltiemama (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 02:33 AM Response to Reply #100 |
111. I read "American Terrorist." |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
102. My conclusion is that he is not the screaming teabagger waving a misspelled sign... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
108. Didn't watch it all, but wasted some time with it -- |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
114. I've been sick of McVeigh for years an have no pity for his dead, white bread w/mayo eyes |
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Colonel Bat Guano (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Can still get it on iTunes |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. And that's another thing - this freaking iEverything out there shit has to shrieking stop! |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
118. It's classic that people on here assume McVeigh was a teabagger. Do your homework. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Wow, one line out of all of his manifestos really proves your point |
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