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Wed Apr-21-10 02:33 PM
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If I called anyone 'Mentally Retarded' in an offensive manner, DUers would slam me big time! |
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Just because someone does it to a Tea Party group doesn't make it any less offensive.
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Wed Apr-21-10 02:36 PM
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1. click on the alert if it happens. |
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Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 02:42 PM by uppityperson
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Wed Apr-21-10 02:37 PM
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2. I already did - from what was on the DU home page |
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It's like we're celebrating a guy and chastising Geico because this guy used that phrase.
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Wed Apr-21-10 02:41 PM
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"RELATED STORY... retarded people upset at being called TEABAGGERS... claim "we're not THAT retarded""
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Wed Apr-21-10 02:42 PM
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4. It's against DU rules. |
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That doesn't mean all DUers have a problem with it in other contexts.
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Wed Apr-21-10 02:49 PM
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to people with intellectual disabilities, many of whom demonstrate far superior knowledge of current events than your garden-variety teabagger.
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Fri Apr-23-10 04:47 PM
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26. Not to mention have a whole hell of a lot more HEART and affection |
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than most of what passes for "progressive".
Give me a Downs Syndrome kid anyday to intellectual liberalism!
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Wed Apr-21-10 02:51 PM
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6. Especially when "Astroturf" is the proper word: Dick Armey, Freedomworks, Fox News |
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It's all about controlling and directing very real anger from foreclosures and bankruptcies into a media circus controlled by the GOP elites.
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Wed Apr-21-10 03:02 PM
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7. but we wouldn't harass your employer until you got fired. |
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Wed Apr-21-10 03:06 PM
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8. I wouldn't. I'm not the word police. But you are right, many here would |
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because they got nothing better to do than to get angry over stupid shit.
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Wed Apr-21-10 03:08 PM
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9. Same thing with accusing them of being mentally ill. |
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I get sick of people confusing a sane people brainwashed by BS with actual mental illness, it's a terrible, bigoted attack.
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Fri Apr-23-10 04:50 PM
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There is just as much bigotry here... it is just a different flavor.
People like to find ways to look down on others.
So, never be an OTHER.
:hi:
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Wed Apr-21-10 03:24 PM
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10. I call them intellectually challenged |
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Wed Apr-21-10 03:30 PM
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bvar22-- Proud Member of the "Fucking Retarded" Wing of the Democratic Party.
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Wed Apr-21-10 03:59 PM
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12. When did mentally retarded become an "INSULT"? |
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My husband w/ADD is "retarded", I have PTSD, I guess I am "retarded". Neither of us can do anything else about this but we can and have learned ways to cope with our deficits and challenges and quite frankly, I see no problem with the word retarded. From my life experience, being over 60, I'd say we are all retarded in one way or another.
Why is this term now considered so offensive that it should even be news now for a voice actor losing his job. and why are you so reactionary to this?
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Wed Apr-21-10 04:00 PM
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13. About 30 years ago. n/t |
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Wed Apr-21-10 04:07 PM
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14. Yeah, well, it's sad that being "politically correct" has overtaken rationality. n/t |
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Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 04:15 PM by condoleeza
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My husband's whole family is ADD and has genetics that have apparently led to an autism spectrum dx for his nephew and that is sad and that is life and none of us think this nephew is hopelessly w/o the ability to learn, but he truly is a challenge. My PTSD is a result of real life experiences and I will always be reactionary but I can deal with it and am grateful to know that I am responding normally to an abnormal situation and I don't care if I am considered retarded, it doesn't define me, so it shouldn't define the poster on this thread, IMO. We are who we are, love yourself.
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Wed Apr-21-10 04:10 PM
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15. PC is usually just what right wingers call common courtesy |
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Wed Apr-21-10 10:10 PM
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18. "politically correct" = right wing complaint that they can't say whatever the hell they want. |
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Wed Apr-21-10 10:20 PM
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20. it hasn't "overtaken rationality" |
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though it has angered conservatives who cling to the right to be insulting.
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Wed Apr-21-10 04:41 PM
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16. 'Mentally Retarded' is not an insult when used to define someone who happens to be retarded |
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although I suppose there are more correct words to use. I think Learning Disable is the preferred word.
But when you define a group of people 'Mentally Retarded' who are not retarded but happen to not agree with your political viewpoints (or other viewpoints) then we're just being insultive.
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Thu Apr-22-10 03:56 PM
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21. Apples and Oranges, Lynn |
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I choose not to focus on words as much as actions. None of us live in a bubble, I've been walking a fine line where I live during a recall attempt for a man who could fire my husband if I were tracked to any comments I've made. It's just stupid that this voice talent is being fired because he has an opinion. Lesson learned for him.
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Thu Apr-22-10 04:28 PM
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23. It's not the opinion that got him fired but the language. |
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When you are being paid to communicate, you're expected to know how to do that without gratuitously offending the public. There are language requirements in every similar job.
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Fri Apr-23-10 04:57 PM
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29. PTSD could be considered offensive soon |
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Since you have it, just tell us you don't like the term, and then common courtesy will dictate we change our vocabulary.
Any suggestions for a new word? We are forced to call it whatever you want it, or we won't be progressive.
:hi:
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Fri Apr-23-10 05:25 PM
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36. First, neither ADD nor PTSD have anything to do with mental retardation. |
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Second, I don't think it's accurate to call them retarded. They should be called Italians. Teabaggers are all just a bunch of stupid Italians.
What? It's just a word! In fact, it's a generally accepted word for people from Italy! Why so reactionary?
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Wed Apr-21-10 10:08 PM
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17. Christ, this is the realm |
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of the stupid and offended. Time to fucking grow up people
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Wed Apr-21-10 10:15 PM
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19. Be the change you want in the world. |
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Fri Apr-23-10 04:41 PM
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but the power given to the minute is amazing in this place.
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Fri Apr-23-10 04:49 PM
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27. No - you need to grow up. Retarded is as hurtful to those with disabilities as any other word used |
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to describe any other group of people.
They want it stopped, unfortunately their voices aren't as strong as other groups.
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Fri Apr-23-10 05:07 PM
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32. That is true. That States of Massachusetts and New |
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Hampshire have even renamed their departments of mental retardation to department of developmental disabilties.
Got to stop using that word as an insult.
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Fri Apr-23-10 05:07 PM
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33. That is true. That States of Massachusetts and New |
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Hampshire have even renamed their departments of mental retardation to department of developmental disabilties.
Got to stop using that word as an insult.
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Fri Apr-23-10 05:07 PM
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34. That is true. That States of Massachusetts and New |
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Hampshire have even renamed their departments of mental retardation to department of developmental disabilties.
Got to stop using that word as an insult.
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but do we want to raise a generation of "offended" people or resilient ones? Sure it is offensive if you take it as such. But the point is we can't legislate morality. That is done through experience. I have worked with many of the disabled and what they dont want is victimhood. NEVER. So let's not encourage it.
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Fri Apr-23-10 09:52 PM
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38. Bullshit - they want people to stop using the R word - there is a whole movement to do so. |
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http://www.r-word.org/?gclid=CNjU4qSpnqECFQHX5wodgHZTzQMaybe you should pledge. And there's this - http://www.lifewithoutlimits.org/site/MessageViewer?em_id=5902.0#1Maybe this community is sick and tired of being made fun of. I work with special adults & THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE LABELED any more than any other group of citizens.
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Fri Apr-23-10 10:08 PM
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39. You are missing my point |
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Certainly we can encourage that people be treated well, regardless of disability. But it is time to grow up and realize that there are not kind people in the world. So the lesson isn't "be offended", the lesson should be "rise above it". Let's not raise a bunch of babies but rather adults. Instead of being "offended", take back the word. Is it insensitive, yeah probably, but people have a choice in how they choose to respond. I would rather choose the more empowering choice.
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Thu Apr-22-10 04:23 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAB0-0Vbff0He looks just like my husband - who knew??? He's going to be huge, probably the best mistake he ever made.
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an insulting term and indefensible. We need to stop using it. That doesnt mean that the Geico guy was wrong in general -- I understand he is British and maybe using retarded as an insult isnt quite so self-defeating there. Marc Maron, Rahm Emmanuel and no Geico guy have used term as insult and totally sabotages the point were trying to make. If you want to get your message across its a good idea skip the word "retarded" as an insult. It is like the N--word to families of people with developmental disabilities. Calling teabaggers jerks would just work as well.
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