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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 10:58 PM Original message |
the Mormon massacre |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Frontline and the American Experience had a two-part docu on the Mormons this week on public tv. |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Warren Jeffs is beloved as a great family man... Very kind to all his wives. n/t |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Warren Jeffs is not Mormon (LDS) |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. That's like saying that Baptists aren't Christians. Very excluding of you. I'm certain that |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. proudly profess blind faith in? |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Hmmm, is it? Which part? I could ask the same question of any |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. I'm not Mormon, but that type of slam isn't valid for Mormons, Muslims, |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Huh?... |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Thank you for pointing that out. nt |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. I read that in the context of post #5...apparently I misread the author's point. (n/t) |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. That wasn't even close to a slam. You can, however, believe whatever you wish. nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. Wow, he's old...nt |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. South Park did a good show on Mormons |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 05:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
25. lol |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. Honestly, who cares? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Go visit Utah. Then you'll get it |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Listen, I think Mormons and their belief systems are bizarre. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Go visit Utah, then you'll get it |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Fine, but again, I don't think that Utah's hiring policies |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Actually he did operate business in Utah. Or do you forget he was the rescue boy for the Olympics? |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. LOL |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Again, what does that have to do with Utah's hiring policies? |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Mormons have always done business with Mormons Only from the 1860's onward... |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. The Mountain Meadows massacre was covered up for a long time |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 12:00 AM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Okay, but what does that have to do with Romney? nt |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. If all they have is one, they're ahead of the rest of us. |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. And I suppose we Lutherans are responsible |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Those Fuckers were Unionists! The Hohenzollerns were Calvinists... |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 02:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Interesting reading! My background was the Norwegian ev. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
73. My denomination's roots are in that united church in Prussia |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-03-07 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. If this damages his campaign then we live in a really sad country |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Ten bucks there will be morans who think that Romney shouldn't be president because he's a Mormon. |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Agreed, but that's better than those who think he should be president because he is... nt |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Another scary category! |
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politicat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 04:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Not a moran, or a moron, but.... |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. This post deserves its own thread. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
59. Good post, good scary portrait |
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Error (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
72. It makes a striking statement about other religions |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
74. Thanks..a very close and personal perspective. |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Doesn't matter to me why the GOP won't vote for him |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
11. Ummmm Harry Reid is a Mormon |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
76. And Rocky Anderson is a |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
13. It happened but how strange they should bring it up when |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yeah, there is more than enough there... |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. It happened 150 years ago September |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
18. IIRC the Mormons left the East after being well persecuted by the locals. |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Your right - 5 times they were fourced to flee |
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politicat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 05:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Please read Krakauer's Under the Banner of Heaven, Fawn Brodie's |
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lolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
28. Why Bring it Up? Why Hide it? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
30. They mobilized Paiute Indians? Paiutes lived in very small bands |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. That really isn't in dispute |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Well, then let me register my doubt that this happened without |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. The Mormons didn't coerce the Paiutes |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. We disagree. Living near the Mormons alone was coersive |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Okay, fine |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I studied with the Paiute people for a number of years. |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Okay |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Where does the primary evidence come from? |
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lolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I second that |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I apologize if I offended anyone of the Mormon Faith |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. It comes from the recollection of survivors and from archaeological accounts |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. You fail to mention where the archeologists come from |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Read the book review |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Whether all the bodies were exhumed or not - there was no evidence |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. That doesn't make any sense |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I don't think I said that |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 06:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
69. If you're into reading things on Mormonism, you should watch this... |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
32. Is that the Christian thing to do? I would think not. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
48. The women were butchered, slain with axes, etc. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
57. way off topic - Jon Voight is a conservative? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. I'm not sure but to me.."conservative" doesn't |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-06-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Conservative has horrible, horrible connotations for me. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-06-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I know what you mean..it's the old |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. Religions + Massacres are like Water + Wet. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-04-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
64. okay, those who want to know about Mormonism |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-05-07 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
68. I read the article too. Bizarre. The massacre is a compelling story, but I'm |
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