Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Poll said San Diego wants to go Arizona all over immigrant ass...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:14 AM
Original message
The Poll said San Diego wants to go Arizona all over immigrant ass...
God, I think want to vomit. I live in San Diego, just south of VanDam peak and close enough to Poway to spit on a right wing church. The shame, the terrible shame. It feels like I've woken up in the midst of a production of "Springtime for Hitler and Germany."

Of course, San Diego County has always been home to a virulent strand of white supremacy. Goes back to the period just after the Civil War. Republicans, of the northern corporate variety settled San Diego. In the back country, especially around Julian, the Confederates settled. They actually sued a Metzger and his bunch and took his property hear. (He lived around Fallbrook.)

But the county is conservative and now, well we (the poll says it though I didn't vote) that we think Arizona did it right. We (the poll says it though I didn't vote) want to pass a law that allows illegal search and seizure of anyone that looks a little illegal, and brown, and speaks with a Mexican accent. The beaches will be denuded of sunbathers in about five minutes. Except for Blacks Beach, which is clothing optional, which is nuded all the time.

A now I feel a need to apologize for to Arizona Democrats. You have my apology and my sympathy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:16 AM
Response to Original message
1. This is why this poison needs to stop
or it will spread

And I an not surprised at all. Problem is trying to do it in San Diego MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT. Hope this wakes people around. This is part of US History and American as Apple Pie.

Now to the apology, like Prop 8 this is in the water.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Yes, caught it on the news just after Glee...
It is disgusting and I am disgusted.

Of course it was Channel 5 (Fox) that took the poll. But damnnnnnnn......
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:18 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Well, what were their percentages?
And if they called certain areas, east of I-15 and north of I-8...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:23 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. 57% according to the story...n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:26 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Given I cannot find it there
and that I at times find Rasmussen as an outlier that gives you a 47%.

This is not that comforting, but not the crazy majorities we saw in AZ, where the same practice leads to 65% (Rasmussen had it at 75%)

And yes this is Spring Time for Hitler, but this is where the radicals want to go. They WANT a race war.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. There is a sizable minority in this country that can not accept that the nation...
has become multi-ethnic, multi-cultural.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. and in my view they are wiling to go there,
Again one more time, that reaction... is it time to run?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:40 AM
Response to Original message
8. I heard tonight
that Arizona is going to lose billions of $$$ over this. Perhaps other states should consider that before they go too far like Arizona has. Apart from the fact that this is totally wrong, it is also totally "bankrupt" in ethics and finances.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. The backlash will stop states and cities
and trust me, this county cannot afford the lawsuits.

But given what I know of this county, 45% agreeing would not shock me.

We have a strong white supremacist movement in the East County...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. We sure do have our share of nutballs out here, don't we?
Edited on Wed Apr-28-10 12:51 AM by Maat
I'm up in the Temecula/Murrieta area, and am surrounded. I have a healthy circle of progressive friends, however, and there are huge numbers of progressives in San Diego County; BUT we have our share of nuts.

Folks around the U.S., this Californian is here to tell you that we Californians rely on our legislature, chock full of progressives, to stop most of the madness; AND we WILL get Prop. 8 repealed.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #10
13. We sure do
I wonder, should I travel with my papers next time I go to East County?

And I swear we should have a DU Meet Up in this county.

:hi: neighbor.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 05:54 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. Yep.
My problem is that I only have one copy of my birth certificate, and I don't want to pay to get another. Hubby's and Daughter's are out-of-state, and cost big bucks. Our certificates stay in our vault. I guess we have to order extra copies of everything now (rolling my eyes) - even to go the Zoo. Yikes!


I'd love to go to a meetup some time.

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:52 AM
Response to Original message
11. The good thing is, they wouldn't get away with a law like that anywhere in the state
Edited on Wed Apr-28-10 12:54 AM by KingFlorez
They tried and failed years ago, all they can do is talk. San Diego County, Riverside County and Orange County are the right-wing holds in SoCal, but there are still plenty of progressive about to have an impact.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 05:57 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. Thank Heaven for the progressives up north.
Otherwise, my fifty-one years in SoCal (my entire life) would have been MUCH different; thank Heaven for our consistently progressively-minded legislature, which generally ignores the nutballs elected from the aforementioned districts (thank Heaven again).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:52 AM
Response to Original message
12. And also Missouri...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 05:59 AM
Response to Reply #12
17. Missouri has to protect its borders.
From Kentuckians and the like.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 05:58 AM
Response to Original message
16. There are three anti-immigrant bills in the Ohio legislature, too.
This is the Midterm Wedge. A coordinated effort.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. Yeah they'd rather let us see how they fuck up immigration, as we've already seen how they fuck up
finance. :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RobertPlant Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. San Diego isn't all bad
Obama became the first democratic candidate to win a majority in the county since 1944. The city of San Diego itself is democratic. The GOP areas are to the east and north of the city proper. My aunt and uncle live in El Cajon which used to be in Duncan Hunter Sr.'s district who was a notorious birther/xenophobe. They are self described "red-hot" republicans. I always avoid talking politics with them whenever I see them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Why I suspect the poll was mostly taken
North of I-8... south them (insert minority here) live you know... (and i know that is not fully the case, but the local ol' boys tend to believe this), and east of I-15...

Oh and welcome to DU.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 05:06 PM
Response to Original message
21. See what happens when you call people racist and forget there are good Dems?
I tried to tell ya, man. Good luck with San Diego. The border fence there is pretty gruesome.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 05:07 PM
Response to Original message
22. I can see that being popular in San Diego and here in OC (blech) where I live.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 05:13 PM
Response to Original message
23. Hang in there, Ozymanithrax
We will all get through this if we support each other.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 10:17 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC