nadinbrzezinski
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Fri Apr-30-10 08:46 PM
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ARGGG civilians... Rachel Women in Subs has been a thirty + battle |
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it will be the same for the LGBT. In fact, I suspect it will NOT take 30 years.
Yes I love her, but my hubby retired from the silent service, and they wanted women, some in the service did that is... but mostly not the admiralty or the senior enlisted, and fought for 30 + years to keep them off.
And right now this is an EXPERIMENT. Anything goes wrong... off they go.
And frankly we need to expand the 'xperiment to enlisted... so the sea rotations for men are less onerous...
Oh and to the wives complaining... (yes some did) if you think you cannot trust your husband... there are other issues at play here.
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Fri Apr-30-10 08:48 PM
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1. The boats are at sea longer than ever now. They need 'Blue' and 'Gold' crews for all subs. nt |
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Fri Apr-30-10 08:51 PM
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2. Ah yes, one particular deployment after 9.11 |
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they staid at sea for seven + Months and only ONE port call. Hell his boat was the first to resupply at sea since oh WW II.
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Fri Apr-30-10 08:54 PM
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3. It's interesting how the cranky old conservative sub vets I know say they had no |
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problem with gay guys on subs. Most of them had gay crewmembers and say it was no problem at all. You pee by yourself and shower by yourself, so no big deal.
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Fri Apr-30-10 09:00 PM
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4. Exactly, the only thing they would |
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Edited on Fri Apr-30-10 09:02 PM by nadinbrzezinski
have an issue is if somebody tried to use it to get out of work. That they have a low tolerance for, gay or not.
that said, my hubbies last COB will be retiring I suspect. He don't want no damn women on his boat.
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Fri Apr-30-10 09:09 PM
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5. I was one of the first women on ships - |
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And the wives that did the most complaining were usually bordering on "west-pac widows" category. Considering that almost a half of the women on my ship were lesbians, it was pretty laughable. A few "girls" tried to get ahead via flirting and seduction, but most of us were trying to do our jobs. Plus,the thought of having a "relationship" on a cramped, greasy, smelly, noisy, constantly swaying and jerking Navy ship with no privacy-yeah, that might turn on a few people, but most of us were just trying to keep focused on getting through the day until we could get back on shore. And there's not a lot of artifice; you can pretty much get to know the real person your shipmate is, and after a few weeks of close quarters, most relationships other than dislike, trusting friendships or professional working relationships don't last. Our C.O.made sure we had plenty of ship events so the crew, wives, girlfriends, husbands and boyfriends could get together. That pretty much took care of a lot of the jealousy issues.
Besides, how long have countries like Norway have women on submarines? (Of course, their societies tend to view relationships a bit more maturely than the generic American TV-influenced "fresh and brash" society.) An North-Atlantic patrol is the same, be it on an American sub or Norwegian sub.
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Fri Apr-30-10 09:45 PM
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6. You know what is funny? |
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I was one of the first female medics in the Red Cross in Mexico. We were attached like to land and such... and we had similar issues. The wives of many of our male counterparts were like concerned and such that well, they'd be attracted.
I guess that is human nature.
And yes, wespac can and is stressful for all involved... and I would have "qualified" as a Wespac widow, when we were in Hawaii. I mostly kept to myself in the bubble that is housing. Trust me, that was on purpose...
Oy, the stories....
Ain't being a trail blazer all kinds of fun?
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