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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:26 PM
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Whoa... Stumbled On To This Website... One Hell Of A Stumble...
Found this while reading comments to an article on the oil rig disaster...

Read the following while allowing the graphics on linked site below to load:

This is from the 'City Systems' section of the website...

<snip>

Cybernated Government

We are fast approaching a time when human intelligence will be incapable of interacting with the rapidly occurring events in the physical world. The human mind is far too simple to handle and put to practical use the voluminous information needed to operate a highly technical and advanced world society. The processing required would have to deal with trillions of bits of information per second, far too complex for human systems, particularly with the infusion of nanotechnology.

The Venus Project calls for a cybernated society in which computers could replace the outmoded system of electing politicians that in most cases represent the entrenched vested interests. This new technology will not dictate or monitor individual's lives, as in The Venus Project this would be consider socially offensive and counterproductive. Books such as 1984 and Brave New World, and motion pictures such as Blade-Runner and Terminator 2 have spawned fear in some people regarding the takeover of technology in our society. The Venus Project's only purpose is to elevate the spiritual and intellectual potential of all people, while at the same time providing the goods and services that will meet their individual and material needs.

Cybernation is the linking of computers with automated systems. Eventually the central cybernated systems will coordinate all of the machinery and equipment that serve the entire city, the nation and ultimately the world. One can think of this as an electronic autonomic nervous system extending into all areas of the social complex.


For example, in the agricultural belt the computers could automatically monitor and maintain the water table, soil chemistry, and coordinate the planting and harvesting of crops. In the residential sector, the system could maintain environmental cleanliness and the recycling of waste materials.

In addition, to ensure the efficient operation of the city's various functions, all of the processes and services could be equipped with electronic environmental feedback sensors. These sensors could be coordinated with redundant, back-up systems that could operate in the event of failure or breakdown of the city's primary systems.

Eventually, only when cybernation is integrated into all aspects of this new and dynamic culture can computers appropriately serve the needs of all people. No technological civilization can ever operate efficiently and effectively without the integration of cybernetics as an integral part of this new world civilization.

These proposals, from an engineering standpoint, seem fantastic and unfeasible within the present monetary system; and they are. The sums involved in ventures of this magnitude would be too huge and inconceivable. No government today can possible afford this prodigious undertaking. All of this could only be accomplished in a resource-based world economy where all of the world's resources are held as the common heritage of all of the earth's peoples.

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Link: http://www.thevenusproject.com/technology/city-systems

Homepage: http://www.thevenusproject.com/index.php

:wow:

Anybody ever heard of this group???

:shrug:


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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:29 PM
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1. Hmn. If there are any fellow Whovians out there, this sounds like the approach of the Cybermen.
(And that's not a good thing!)

Now, seriously speaking - no, I hadn't heard of this group.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 08:50 PM
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17. Just as long as its not those damn DALEKS !
Edited on Sat May-01-10 08:51 PM by AsahinaKimi

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:29 PM
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2. Heard of this group before...
but it was referred to as The Borg.

Interesting (and scary) stuff. Thanks for sharing it, Willy T. Now, I need a bit of wine.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:30 PM
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3. Aldous Huxley?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:32 PM
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4. That's a pretty good summary of the plot of "Pride and Prejudice."
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:33 PM
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5. Ahriman (R) and his allied Wide-stance, Diaper-clad Evil Doing Cronies (R)
Edited on Sat May-01-10 01:35 PM by SpiralHawk
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borelord Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:34 PM
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6. yeah
I've heard Peter Joseph (Zeitgeist) refer to them favorably. I didn't take it too seriously since we don't have the technology to do what they are talking about anyway, and probably won't for quite some time.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:34 PM
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7. Then some simpleton will accidentally pull THE mother plug
Edited on Sat May-01-10 01:37 PM by lunatica
and it will all suddenly stop all over the world at once. Ooops!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:34 PM
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8. Yes, I like their vision, if not all of their objectives.
They got a mention at the end of, or in the 'special features' on the DVD of, "Who Killed the Electric Car?"
:kick: & R

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:44 PM
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9. Cool... And Good To Know...
Just wanted to make sure it wasn't going in this direction...



:scared:

:shrug:

:hi:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 02:34 PM
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13. Oops, it was in Zeitgeist, at/toward the end.
Anyway, have you heard of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Soleri">Arcosanti?
:kick:

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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 02:05 PM
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10. I think they are the 'resource-based economy' people that Zeitgeist 2 is about.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 02:15 PM
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11. "0 $#!% -- that looks like the BSOD"
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 02:24 PM
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12. Don't know why... but it reminds me of the "cube" guy
used to periodically see links to his page (for DU gawking.)
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 03:20 PM
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14. Sound a bit like Walt Disney's original plan for Epcot.
EPCOT - Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow.

It was going to be a real city designed to test out new technologies for the future.

People who decided to live there would understand that they were test guinea pigs for new ideas.

He died before it got off the ground and devolved into a glorified Tomorrowland amusement park.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 06:09 PM
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15. But will they find Sarah Connor?
surprised no one went there.....
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 08:35 PM
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16. LOL !!! - I Went There At First...
But, I do like discussions of where we want to end up in the next couple of hundred years.

Forces us to fix our current problems, no ???

:shrug:

:hi:
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