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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 10:28 PM
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Ann Coulter accidentally reveals what the AZ immigration law is about! (Fox News Video)
At 6:00 in this video Juan William discusses the reality that Ann Coulter (whites etc) will not get asked to produce her papers, but Juan Williams will. Ann let's it fly that he will because he's a Democrat. That is verbatim what she said, perhaps in jest, but I can't help but think we unintentionally revealed what she knows is really behind this law: Voter Suppression of minorities particularly Hispanics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syPVP4GMF_o

I have come to believe this law IS and always has been about voter suppression. The Gov of AZ was formerly the Sec of State and embarked on an aggressive campaign to suppress voters in minority and ethnic communities.

Look where the Funding is coming from. The GOP group FAIR in DC gave $250,000 to PAN the group who pushed the Legislation.

I did not figure this out on my own. Greg Palast did an excellent piece that the "Lamestream" media is ignoring, and the bloggers have not caught up to:
http://www.gregpalast.com/behind-the-arizona-immigration-lawgop-game-to-swipe-the-november-election/

But hearing Ann Coulter blurt that line out to Juan Williams on Fox News really sealed it for me. The right knows the left is too naive to see through this smokescreen. They know bleeding hearts will rise up against what they perceive to an effort to curb civil rights of any group, and never lok past the smoke screen to identify the real agenda.

Time to refocus our sights people.
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 10:30 PM
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1. Jan Brewer practices for her next job as a Turd Burnisher.
(CNN) -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a bill Friday that makes changes to a controversial new state immigration law, saying the changes should ease concerns about racial profiling.
"These changes specifically answer legal questions raised by some who expressed fears that the original law would somehow allow or lead to racial profiling," Brewer said in a statement after the signing. "These new amendments make it crystal clear and undeniable that racial profiling is illegal and will not be tolerated in Arizona."
But opponents challenged that assertion in the run-up to Brewer's signing of the changes into law on Friday.

A little turd burnishing … will not fix it

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/30/arizona.immigration.law.changes/index.html?hpt=T2

Good luck in your next career Jan
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 10:35 PM
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2. What next career?
Burger flipper in a Mexican joint?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 10:49 PM
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3. See where her approval rating has dropped quite a few points
since she signed the bill. So most of the good people of Arizona detest the bill.
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601Liberal Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 10:54 PM
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4. But we keep hearing that 70% of Arizonans support the bill
How could her support be dropping?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 12:00 AM
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5. I recommended this thread, but it's still at zero.
That's a shame, because Greg Palast's voice is one that should be heard.

It's not so different from the Iraq war - stir up some good old fashioned racism to drum up support among the common people, but if you want to find out what the people in power are really up to, you need to follow the money.

It's late at night, but it's still shameful that this isn't already on the greatest page.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 02:49 AM
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7. k&r - it's at 10 recs now. nt
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 03:38 PM
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10. Thanks
I worry that even amongst DUers the racism against immigrants would be strong enough that they wouldn't want to acknowledge or publicize voter suppression as an underlying agenda for the law, even if deep down they knew it was true.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 12:15 AM
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6. I doubt it was "accidental."
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:48 AM
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8. arizona has a long history of republicon voter suppression

The Voting Rights Act transformed this nation into one that put citizenship ahead of privilege in the voting booth.

And even before the ink of Lyndon Johnson's signature was dry, political forces were trying to roll back the clock.

They included, for instance, a man who would become the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, William Rehnquist.

As a Republican activist in Arizona in the '60s, Rehnquist would spend Election Day picking out, and picking off if possible, black voters by challenging their credentials.

http://www.seattlepi.com/opinion/384300_youngonline22.html
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 11:07 AM
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9. I think it serves two purposes.
1)This entire brouhaha is has to do with the meme of racism and xenophobia. The RNC is using this dog whistle to light the fires under their base to get them to the polls as well as stir up their racist tendencies in order to support restrictive, draconian legislation. While sold on the "feel good" aspects of such horrible bills, conservative supporters ignore the long term costs of what those laws will do not only to them, but to everyone within the state.

This is especially apparent with all the "terrorism/Sept.11th" paranoia which targets anyone not fitting into the purported WASP vision of the "typical American".

2)I agree that this also has to do with voter suppression. Whatever people say about what happened in Florida and Ohio, this tactic unfortunately (under a RW administration) works.

Under a rightist regime, people can voice opposition to voter suppression and even speak about it in public, but the GOP sweeps everything under the rug and the election hijinks continue unabated.

All I have to say is that the RNC is rather bold to try it again after all the mess that happened after 2000 and 2004. But as long as Democrats roll over and try to appease their enemies, tactics like this continue without being checked.

The main thing here is racism. If people weren't so racist, they would see that the republicans are hoodwinking them for their own purposes. But like the era of Jim Crow, people continue to play the privilege card in order to put down others who are not like themselves.

And in present-day Arizona, they are doing it again.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 03:58 PM
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11. Ann herself has been investigated for voter fraud
"The New York Daily News reports that Ann Coulter is under investigation by the Connecticut Elections Enforcement Commission for allegedly voting in that state while registered to vote in New York City.

Officials are responding to a formal complaint filed by Coulterwatch.com blogger Dan Borchers. "For over 10 years, Ann Coulter has gotten away with illegal, immoral and unethical behavior, ranging from plagiarism to defamation, perjury to voter fraud," claims the conservative Borchers. Coulter declined to comment, but in the past has branded Borchers a stalker. He says the FBI has determined he poses no threat.

Coulter was investigated and cleared of wrongdoing in 2006 for allegedly violating Florida's voter registration laws by voting in the wrong precinct.

But Brad Friedman of BradBlog.com reports that Coulter was never actually cleared; the Florida Election Commission dropped the case after deciding that the two-year statute of limitations had run out.

An official previously told the Daily News that they would investigate "if we received a complaint under oath." Read more about Daniel Borchers, who filed the complaint, here."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/08/ann-coulter-under-investi_n_165007.html

And she may be guilty of more:

But "retarded news" site, The BRAD BLOG linked to several documents which indicate, in no uncertain terms, that Coulter purchased a $1.8 million dollar crib in Palm Beach in March of 2005. If that is not her residence, Coulter would still be guilty of an apparent voter fraud felony, since she did register to vote in Palm Beach...even if at the wrong address.

As well, Coulter has received a $25,000 homestead tax exemption, which, according to Palm Beach law, would only be available to use as a tax deduction on the property if she "lives there permanently"

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2809
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Prof Lester Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 05:30 PM
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12. "the left is too naive to see through this smokescreen".. NO, it ain't.
Don't fall into the trap of parroting the crooked MSM about who or what is the "left". Most of the people labelled as "left" by the bullshit MSM are NOT leftists at all and never were and never will be and never could be. The real left in America is a very, very small segment but it is NOT ignorant of the state of American capitalism and it's utter corruption of formal politics. The left is not fooled and has not been fooled for more than a hundred years. None of the current events are of any surprise whatsoever to the real left. This was expected long ago. It accomplishes nothing to confuse the issue of who is of the left and who is not. There is a long vibrant history of labor struggle in the world and in the US in particular. These parasites at the top of the pyramid haven't changed their spots in a thousand years.. maybe ten thousand years. The long ago lost the ability to fool the left. The left is NOT fooled.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 06:20 PM
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15. You are right in your characterization of the left, but perhaps
Edited on Sun May-02-10 06:21 PM by Jackpine Radical
not correct in describing it as a "very, very small segment." I think there is a larger group of progressives and similar people who are functionally democratic socialists than you might believe, even if not all of them would identify themselves by that label.


Edited to add---Hey, welcome to DU!
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 05:50 PM
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13. 25 years ago the same bunch were all for AMNESTY
When their slave labor started voting Democratic and demanding medical care and labor protections then the mantra changes to "protect our borders".
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 05:58 PM
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14. Pardon me while I go outside to hurl off of my front porch...
Edited on Sun May-02-10 06:00 PM by tnlefty
Coulter was born about 80+ yrs. too late. She would've been a great young guard in the women's section of the Buchenwald camp. I'll stop now before I get into trouble.

edit to add: google Isle Koch
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 06:30 PM
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16. Flashback: Ann Coulter slips and tells O'Reilly "We own the media"
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 06:36 PM
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17. What do you mean, the right knows the left is too naive?
What a strange statement. Who do you think figured out this was about vote suppression?

And there is no conflict between protecting civil rights and detecting vote suppression. Being able to vote IS a civil right for American citizens.
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 06:42 PM
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18. Thats because Ann is aloof in fantasy land.
Ignoring the past 8 years when Bush let the illegals on in via deregulation that many americans found themselves out of work because corporations could hire these illegals below minimum wage.

My uncle was very pro Bush until he figured that out. And I've said this before yet again... He's an independent now.

I would have to disagree with Ann that this law is to arrest Democrats. It's to arrest anyone who isn't white.

Kinda find it hard to hear when someone is saying how do we know what illegals look like? Look like no. Sound like... thats usually easier. They speak maybe 3 % english. Unless we went intentional and went with spanglish Hasta La Vista Baby? At least the Bosnian's and Russians and Ukrainians and other parts in that area learn English far faster. Cesar Millan speaks great english and he's clearly a hard worker and wants to be here. love the guy.. he's great with dogs.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 06:59 PM
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19. She's a fountain of projection.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 07:25 PM
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20. I don't think it's about voter suppression. Although that may be a collateral perk for them.
I live in the southwest, but not near the border. Even here, the illegal immigrants are overwhelming our resources and killing people daily...either through gangs, or car accidents, or just individual killings. Our local charity hospital, which is a good hospital, has triple the # of infants in its maternity ward than it was meant to handle. But there's nowhere else for the illegals to go to have their babies.

There really is a serious problem going on. I don't think AZ's new law is the way to handle it. For one thing, law enforcement can't possibly handle immigration matters on top of the other things they are supposed to be doing.

I think it really was a desperate effort to just do something to try to curtail the problem. I am guessing that it really got to them...the breaking point...was last year, when a kindly rancherman was brutally murdered by illegals. What's especially hard to accept about that was that he regularly fed and gave water to illegals coming across the border, to try to help them. People are getting killed. It's not just nice little women who want to be maids, or hard working honest Mexicans who want to do a little landscaping and send some money back home. Hard core criminals and druggies are pouring over the border daily.

Voter suppression? Despite what the Repubs think, the illegals don't vote. The ones who WOULD care to vote are busy working seven days a week, 10 hours a day. They don't have the time, or the paperwork, to register to vote.

I doubt that law holds up in Court. But I really do think it was an act of desperation. We're feeling it here, even though we're in North Texas.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 07:38 PM
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21. I bet they will post police at precincts in heavy Hispanic and Democratic neighborhoods.
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 08:56 PM
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22. The GOP stationed faux-INS officers near polling booths in SoCal
Edited on Sun May-02-10 09:08 PM by LastLiberal in PalmS
In 1994 Loretta Sanchez was running against incumbent Robert Dornan (R-Asshole) to represent Orange County. On election day several men in uniforms closely resembling those of INS officers were posted by the GOP near polling places in predominantly Hispanic precincts. This allegedly was to "ensure the safety of voters," but in reality it dissuaded many Hispanic voters -- who were legal citizens -- from voting, lest they get tangled in some INS web.

Imagine now the 2010 mid-terms: in every Hispanic precinct there are GOP operatives challenging the citizenship of every single voter before they even get through the door. Even if every voter had their paperwork in order (God, that sounds un-American!) the delay would be interminable, and many people would have to leave to return to work before voting. Those without the proper documentation would end up arrested, even if they were born in the U.S.

In Ohio the game was to provide substantially fewer voting machines in black precincts than in white ones. While black voters waited hours to vote the whites were in and out of the polling places in minutes. I see the same thing happening here, with the added threat of being jailed hanging over Hispanic voters. Perhaps the Dems should challenge the citizenship of every potential voter in Republican precincts? The police would be required to investigate (it's the law) and how many whites walk around with their birth certificates or passports?

Of course, my favorite fantasy is for someone to challenge the citizenship of O'Reilly, Hannity, Coulter, Limbaugh, etc. the next time they set foot in Arizona. Would they have documentation, or would a trip to the jail house be on their itinerary?

p.s., Sanchez won.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:27 PM
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23. Completely agree with the assessment it's about intimidating minority voters/Dems . . .
In one way it's a positive sign that they can't completely control the steals thru

hacking.

But it's a frightening acknowledgment how serious the GOP/right wing/elites are about

stealing elections!!

And, how little Democrats have done to shut down these steals.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 10:17 PM
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24. juan Williams is a Democrat!!!?????????? That is a surprise to me
Whenever I have heard him, all he did was bad mouth Democrats and their policies.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:39 AM
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25. If he registers as a Democrat they probably double his pay
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