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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:43 PM Original message |
Advocating for Illegal immigrants is advocating for anarchy. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well we know it ain't about the borders.... |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Whether illegal immigrants are |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. Anyone that supports labor in the US cannot support illegal immigration |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. You raise a good point n/t |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
149. I concur. |
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lunamagica (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I don't understand how anyone who thinks this way voted for Obama |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Because making all immigration legal does end illegal immigration. |
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lunamagica (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I agree with you |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. oh. I misunderstood your point. n/t |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. No. Illegal immigration is only ended by having a permanent open border. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. Right. That's what I meant by |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
119. So we agree that unless you support completely open borders you cannot defend illegal immigration? |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
128. And crime can be ended |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
200. Not everyone who voted for Obama agreed with each of his policies. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Agreed. n/t |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. I support labor regardless of nationality. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
99. thank you! |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Totally agree. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
50. Very well stated. Thank you. Reagan was pro illegal immigration. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
73. The AFL-CIO supports comprehensive immigration reform |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
125. Thank you for your post |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #73 |
199. + |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #73 |
201. The membership and the leadership in the AFL-CIO don't always |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
103. What nonsense. Liberals and progressives have always sided with marginalized and exploited people. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
105. Not true. Though no one support "illegal immigration" |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
117. But they can support comprehensive immigration reform, including legalization, as organized labor |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #117 |
134. Correctamundo |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
161. That is the view of right-wing elements who happen to be union members. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. You obviously don't know what you're talking about |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #163 |
204. there are a lot of racists in unions |
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Petrushka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
172. Is it considered "liberal" to help those who would make the U.S.A. a third world country? ---> |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #172 |
181. The people who would make the US a third-world are NOT the workers coming here. |
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Petrushka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #181 |
182. Certain illegal immigrants were granted amnesty in 1986 by Ronald Reagan . . . |
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KILL THE WISE ONE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. well the immediate intent is voter suppression but |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
165. It doesn't help that the Gov., McCain and others . . . |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. I think we should arrest the leaders of the anrchist movement!!! |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
7. You gotta wonder why the "smaller government" types are not all Anarchists then. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. Advocating for mass deportations, militarization of the borders, |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. Awesome. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. But then...but...but...THE BROWN PEOPLE!!!! (n/t) |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. but but but... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. No the counter argument is an immigration policy that addresses the needs of the US |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #87 |
208. I imagine that also includes traffic laws |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
108. We have plenty of people who were born here who can't "follow and respect |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. I agree. And they need to be held accountable too. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #118 |
146. Impoverished Latin Americans |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
13. Eek!! Anarchists!! Wobblies! Emma Goldman! Mohandas K. Gahdhi!! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
17. So you're on record against a path to citizenship. WHY? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. If a person can demonstrate they understand and respect US law I have no problem with |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. 'But that means applying from your home country so they would have to leave.' Meanspirited. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. It is mean to expect people to follow the law? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. I don't know what the bee in your bonnet is but it's sure not progressive. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
96. The bee in my bonnet is what lax enforcement and deregulation has done to this country. |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #96 |
150. Great points. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. Nah. They knew they were breaking the rules. They took the risk. |
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metalbot (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
158. Why should you give an unfair advantage on the path to citizenship for people who have broken laws? |
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MikeW (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #158 |
192. Valid point .... but no one here will answer it ... sadly |
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dickthegrouch (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. Do you ALWAYS carry residency papers? |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Both AZ ID and DL are proof of legal status |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. I've seen law enforcement reject state-issued DLs & IDs |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. A cop who does that without a valid reason is acting outside the law. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. no, really? |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. Inability to afford a lawyer is not necessarily a bar to representation |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
121. keep living in fantasy land nt |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
153. Unfortunately, the Arizona law |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #153 |
170. The law does specify, in black and white, what is presumptive proof |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:33 AM Response to Reply #170 |
178. Thank you |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
55. I wish my ID qualified as proof of citizenship but I just learned we are one of the few states who |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
202. If he speaks with an American accent and is East Asian, |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
20. Immigrants come here illeglly because they get work. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
22. Good - a little anarchy would do us a world of good here. nt |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
85. Cool. Give me your address. I'll come over and we'll play 'anarchy'. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #85 |
115. I have a very nice 12 ga. but you can only have part of it.......nt |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. Advocating for anarchy is foolish. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
25. Advocating in what way? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
26. Unrec - not a very bright OP. Nt |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. How soon ass*&#@s forget ... |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Illegal immigrants to |
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Dramarama (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
203. Yep |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
122. I didn't realize the American Indians had a law against people landing on their soil. |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
152. Thanks for the reminder here |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
28. So people who do U-turns are anarchists? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Ouch! Damn! |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. oh, that is so excellent--plus 1 million (nt) |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. I'd rec this if it were an OP |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. It's a blue law, dunno if it's still "on the books" |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
72. Well done. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
106. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
109. + 100*1000000000000000 |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
111. Amen, good laundry list of laws of similar import |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
124. Ya know I actually haven't done any of those things knowing it was breaking the law. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
126. Thanks for bringing a hefty dose of win to a failthread. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #126 |
130. Cuz you break the law all the time you mean? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. (yawn) |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. Well if you break the law on a regular basis no wonder you can't relate to my pov. |
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retread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. As in your previous op's I can't relate because I find myself blinded by the utter stupidity. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #139 |
147. The stupidity of advocating following the law? |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #147 |
184. No, the stupidity of treating a minor offense like it's worse than a triple homicide |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #130 |
142. There are laws that you break that you don't even know about |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 12:27 AM Response to Reply #28 |
167. lol |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
187. thank you for keeping it ontrack |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. Works for me. Fuck the border! |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
31. Ridiculous. Would you say the same about other Civil Rights advocates? |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Well, obviously segregation was right; it was the law, after all! |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Are you saying that no nation |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
65. Are you saying that because segregation was the law, it ought to have been respected? |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
127. That is such a crock of crap |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #127 |
141. Chances are, yes, they would be |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #141 |
151. Nice of you to put words in my mouth |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
114. That Rosa Parks failed to follow and respect our laws! |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. We should only give civil rights to the good blacks.... |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. No one has the 'right' to emigrate to another country. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. But, when the country is two-faced and really does want you? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. You can believe whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you're right. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Yet, they fail so much. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. They have no 'right' to be here. That's the 'illegal' part. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Not illegal, unauthorized. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. No one has the 'right' to emigrate to another country. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Sure, they do. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #83 |
98. I didn't realize you were a Ronald Reagan fan. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #98 |
113. . |
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MikeW (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #83 |
195. sure but |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. DON'T ADVOCATE FOR THESE ILLEGALS! You ANARCHIST! |
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MikeW (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
193. if its not |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
84. Actually 'they' have a fairly good case that they do have a right to be here. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
100. Yeah, I see that anti-labor justification posted here a lot. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #84 |
133. Didn't you just chastise me for talking about Mexico? |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #84 |
159. You do realize that the vast majority of illegal immigrants... |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. Freedom of movement is a human right, however |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Not across international borders. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. Is that like how... |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #89 |
107. International borders are very real. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #67 |
155. The fact that you claim it |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
116. Unrealistic |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #116 |
143. Exactly right |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:03 AM Response to Reply #143 |
176. Which humans migrate? |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #176 |
183. All humans migrate |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:56 AM Response to Reply #116 |
175. Which migrations would those be? |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
33. K & R |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
37. So it's okay to treat them like shit? nt |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
44. True. K&R |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
47. unrecced for mean-spiritedness and lack of perspective |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
52. What about protesting on behalf of the legal ones that will be harrassed |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Americans of a certain sort, don't care about Americans of another sort being harrassed. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Absolutely true. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. It's not racism so long as it's white folks calling the shots n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
88. Gotta love that part of the game - only we white folks get to decide what's racism and what's not. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
53. People need to realize we live in a global economy |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Anti labor spew. People CAN come here legally, but the process is difficult. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. It's a "feature"? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. Every place worth living is difficult to get into. That's not an accident. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Using that argument we would have turned away all the Ellis Island immigrants. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. No Mexicans came through Ellis Island. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. There was a great deal of resentment towards those immigrants at the time |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Exactly. But today's people concerned about all this "illegal" business seem to be fixated. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #93 |
148. Fixated and wanting a return to Angel Island or Mexican Repatriation |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. But they were still let in |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. We already have plenty of labor. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
97. Immigrants were often turned away |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #97 |
112. Yes it is pretty embarrasing |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:05 AM Response to Reply #81 |
177. Different times |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
76. So, in your opinion, only American citizens have human rights? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. You anarchist. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #82 |
92. This must be "I miss George Wallace Day'. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-05-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #92 |
198. + |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
77. Fix NAFTA nt |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
95. Sheer silliness |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
101. As I said in the other thread, you understand neither anarchism nor the immigration reform movement. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
102. You support labor if you have laws tha require that |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
104. Zero recommends...your idea should go far |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Well, the TSA has "trained her well" |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #104 |
129. I have no problem with it. I've said it again and again. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. it's the birth certificate thing you said...i think that's unreasonable |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. Well apparently you used something that allowed them to verify you. Maybe your social sec #. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. nope...that wasn't required until 1994 |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. Well how else do I prove I'm here legally? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. You didn't face arrest for not providing a social security number |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. I guess I'm supposed to be scared or something? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #145 |
164. Nooo...sheesh...I'm trying to explain how serious this is and how no law in the US does this |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #137 |
196. LOL |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #137 |
210. + |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #129 |
207. Because "reasonable suspicion" in this case is based on race. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:49 AM Response to Reply #104 |
173. Still thinking you need a birth certificate? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:43 AM Response to Reply #173 |
180. Speaking of not reading...you don't seem to have read the post you responded to |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #180 |
188. Really? You must have responded in the wrong spot then |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. I thought it was relevant since she's been talking about illegal immigrants |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #180 |
197. :) |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
123. I guess DUers have better spelling than Freepers on their "Borders Over People!" signs |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
144. And you're Asian to boot, right? Go to Arizona and see how you mind "looking foreign" |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
154. advocating for illegal immigrants is advocating for people, not anarchy |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #154 |
156. The "rights" of illegal immigrants |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. I didn't say otherwise |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #156 |
169. but they do have rights, if not the right to stay, they have the rights afforded to human beings |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #169 |
191. Please cite for me |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #169 |
211. + |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #154 |
186. thank you |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
160. Anarchists tend to view every human as equal and borders as artificial tools of state oppression |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:51 AM Response to Reply #160 |
174. Bullshit |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #174 |
190. How does the border protect you from globalization? Thanks! |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #190 |
194. Like I said, the rich don't respect borders |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
162. THE ANARCHIST ORGANIZATION I'M WITH IS PEACEFUL |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
166. to oppose a bad law isn't being for illegal immigration but is ... |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
168. Yes, that is correct at its base |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
171. I support human freedom and rights. Something we don't offer. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
179. after reading yr comments upthread about being willing to carry a birth cert to "prove" |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
185. I think the range between anarchy and totalitarianism is wider than you've defined |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
205. Many anarchist groups protested against the Iraq War. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
206. minus one. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
209. And drivers who do 66 in a 65 zone are anarchists too... |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
212. Utter bullshit. |
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