pampango
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Mon May-03-10 07:48 AM
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Poll question: Tens of thousands of minorities in protest marches demanding "reform" of existing laws. |
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Edited on Mon May-03-10 07:49 AM by pampango
My sense is that many DU'ers, but certainly not all, are supportive of these marches. I suppose that when a DU'er sees a street filled with minorities protesting, we are initially (perhaps always) supportive of them.
I can't think of any historical occasions when this many minorities were protesting an "injustice" which many DU'ers would have believed in their hearts was really not an "injustice", so they couldn't support the goal of the march, even if they supported the right of the marchers to express themselves.
For those who are not supportive of the protesters, is this an historical "first" or are there historical examples of marches of similar numbers of minorities in which the goal was something that a progressive could not support?
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Mon May-03-10 09:13 AM
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1. Highly complex problem |
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There is no singular solution to this problem. It's not "closed form" as a scientist might say. Depending upon which set of imperfections one is willing to accept, there are multiple solutions available. In reality, "amnesty" isn't really necessary at all. If we created an immigration policy that removes the incentive to enter illegally, provides incentives to enter legally, and places the kinds of border controls to help influence people to choose to enter legally, future illegal immigration would slow to a trickle. Then, it would merely be a case of recognizing that there was a large population of illegal aliens present.
At that point, it really becomes relatively meaningless what we do with them. It's a single generational problem. Some will be caught, mostly committing serious felonies, and deported. Some will live out their lives in quiet participation in our economy. Some will head home in an attempt to qualify for legal entry. It's been happening one way or another for decades. We can create a methodology to try to bring them out in the open. It is in our best interest to do so. We really don't want an underground economy and the associated crime and abuse that goes with it. But in terms of "fixing" our immigration situation, it isn't a primary concern. They're already here. They're already engaged with our economy. We've got alot of time to sort that one out. Fix the future inflow of illegal immigration and then you've got alot of time to work this other issue.
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Mon May-03-10 09:22 AM
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you include whacked-out-crazy-fricking-nutjob-assholes, then no, I can't support teabag marchers.
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Mon May-03-10 09:44 AM
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3. I thought teabaggers might be "minorities" so I added a "tens of thousands of marchers" as a |
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qualification.
I don't think the teabaggers have gotten beyond the "tens" of marchers, much less hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands. :)
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Mon May-03-10 09:56 AM
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4. Maybe not minorities but they are in the minority . |
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Mon May-03-10 02:16 PM
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5. And so much in the minority that they can't put tens of thousands on the street. |
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Though you would think they did given their media coverage. :)
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