Lieberman: Drilling Will Still Be in Climate Bill; ‘Accidents Happen’

[babylonsister]

What a repulsive little toad.

http://washingtonindependent.com/84019/lieberman-drilling-will-still-be-in-climate-bill-accidents-happen


Lieberman: Drilling Will Still Be in Climate Bill; ‘Accidents Happen’
By Aaron Wiener 5/5/10 12:31 PM


Yesterday, after three Democratic senators urged their party’s leaders not to include an expansion of offshore oil drilling in climate legislation, I speculated on whether conservatives in the Democratic caucus would continue to insist on more drilling, now that the politics of the issue have taken a southward turn.

Well, it looks like Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) has answered my question. Lieberman, one of the three senators working on climate legislation — though that number, he says, might soon be reduced to two — argues that the massive oil spill that has threatened the country’s Gulf Coast is no reason to change his mind on offshore drilling. His reasoning? “Accidents happen.”

From National Journal:

“There were good reasons for us to put in offshore drilling, and this terrible accident is very rare in drilling,” Lieberman said. “I mean, accidents happen. You learn from them and you try not to make sure they don’t happen again.”

When asked whether the spill would change any of the drilling language he and Sens. John Kerry, D-Mass., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., have developed, Lieberman said, “I don’t think so; certainly not to lead us to remove it.” He said the draft would allow drilling as close as 75 miles from the U.S. coastline.

The Atlantic Wire has a good survey of opinions on what the oil spill will mean for climate legislation.

[villager]

1. Maybe someone should "accidentally" spill some oil sludge on the carpets

...of Senator Lieberman's offices?

A suggestion I offer strictly for entertainment purposes, mind you...

[dipsydoodle]

2. repulsive little toad he may well be

but he may also be correct. Be interesting to see how you Pres. reacts having apparently agreed the horse trade.

[karynnj]

10. Might have been the other way around

Nothing Obama said limited his decision to open up more areas. He did not make this contingent upon being part of a comprehensive climate change bill. He spoke in terms of energy independence.

The alternative to a comprehensive bill passing is likely Bingaman's energy only bill passing - not nothing.

[polichick]

3. "Accident" my ass - try negligence due to greed. nt

[CountAllVotes]

4. no joke Joe

and you too are a "mistake" IMO. :mad:

:kick:

[glinda]

5. OOPS! Maybe you won't get "re-elected" Joe. Accidents do happen. Ass.

[defendandprotect]

6. BP should be in jail and so should Lieberman --

[Johonny]

7. this spill might be a eco-terrorist attack

and Joe is siding with the terrorists. Thus by Joe's own rules we can strip him of his citizenship. Looks like we need a new AMERICAN senator.

[Kookaburra]

8. " Lord Douchebag" (SNL)

n/t

[Feron]

9. Accidents may happen, but these companies are negligent.

A responsible company has a plan in place for a worst case scenario. BP's big contingency plan was that the well was close to shore. That's simply not good enough.

The oil companies should have had containment booms, fire booms, and a containment structure available at a nearby onshore location in case their onsite devices failed. Prevention and preparedness are a lot cheaper than having no plan in place to contain a deep underwater break. And the expense of a facility is even cheaper if it is a shared one and all drilling companies chip in to maintain it.

The fact that a major oil company was caught offguard should give any thinking person pause about issuing new drilling contracts.

But ultimately nobody will care because it's just a few birds, redneck fishermen, etc. involved. It's only a catastrophe if it hits an area like Palm Beach.

[Supersedeas]

23. they negligently fill his campaign coffers and that's what matters to Corp shills

[Sebastian Doyle]

Yeah, accidents happen

Just ask Joe's mother. :eyes:

[Forkboy]

11. Hope he gets hit by a bus.

But I hope it's an accident.

[Nothing Without Hope]

12. What's Lieberman's future if he bites the hands that have fed him?

He's bought and paid for and now he has to be "loyal." Who else would want him if he turned on his backers? And how would he cash in?

[RandomThoughts]

14. Your comment is explained by Yoda.

It can apply to many people that turn to the dark side. But without judgement of any individual, just talking on the topic of your comment, it is something that has been said in many places.


“Remember, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny..."


Many get trapped, if they steal thinking everyone does it, or lie because their opponent does, or sell themselves to darkness in many forms, then they have to continue down that path.

But there is another way, find a way to defeat the fear, and trust in the mercy of God, and do what a person thinks is best, it is the only way that stops the downward spiral. And for those with less spiritual belief, trust in that most people are more good then bad, including him, and people can be a vehicle of justice also. It is the choice of the individual.


If a person does, because he really thinks it is best, then he is showing his true colors, good and bad both do that, and I am not his judge, so without saying if he is right or wrong, I can say that if he does because he is afraid he will be found out to be supporting what he has supported, then he acts in fear and domination from the dark side.

[CanonRay]

13. Stupid. Bullheaded. Irresponsible.

Take your pick.

[Renew Deal]

15. I wonder if he would say that if oil was found in the LI Sound

:shrug:

[The Stranger]

16. He's an imbecile, too, apparently, in addition to being a piece of shit.

When the potential loss or danger in an activity -- no matter how rare an accident -- is catastrophic, then you do not take on that risk. You do not undertake the activity.

Joe, you fucking imbecile.

[Nothing Without Hope]

17. NOT an accident. BP CHOSE not to install a $500,000 fail-safe device

that would have prevented this disaster. This deliberate omission of vital safety equipment means the company is responsible for what happened. It was no accident if they could have prevented it and chose not to out of greed. LINK:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8273121

[TheKentuckian]

18. Maybe one of his Tea Klu Klan "real" Murikans protesting random crap will feel

the need to clean their rifle around ole Joe.

Accidents happen, no matter how unfortunate.

[joeybee12]

19. You're right Holy Joe, accidents do happen...just ask your mother...n/t

[City Lights]

20. I can't wait until the voters of CT throw Joe out on his ass.

I cannot stand him! :puke:

[RockaFowler]

21. Accidents Happen

Hopefully like his election. Come on my former state (I was born there) - send Joe home where he belongs.

[walldude]

22. Yeah accidents happen, but stupidity and greed are forever..

Wouldn't want BP to stop with the political donations so lets make sure they can build a rig without some kind of emergency shut off. Good plan.