Eliot Spitzer just spent about 10 minutes trying to ask Rand Paul where he stands on the wars

[NNN0LHI]

Paul shucked and jived the entire time and never did give an answer. Rand didn't appear to be prepared for this line of questioning. He seems like a very conflicted individual. Kind of like a deer caught in the headlights.

Does anyone know where he stands on this issue?

Don

[Ruby the Liberal]

1. He is a Libertarian who backs his father's policies.

Anti.

[NNN0LHI]

2. So is Rand for or against the wars?

[MidwestRick]

3. According to him...

he would have voted "no" for the wars and would have withdrawn our troops years ago.

http://randpaulstrangeideas.com/opposes-war-in-iraq/

[NNN0LHI]

7. I wonder why he wouldn't just say that on live TV?

Is he trying to keep it a secret or something?

Don

[Ruby the Liberal]

8. He needs the GOP voters.

You saw how well Ron Paul did in his bid against mainstream GOPers.

[Juche]

31. Probably

If the elderly and militant neocons knew what people like Rand Paul stood for (weaking the military, destroying medicare & SS) they'd lose by gigantic margins.

So lie and feed the electorate platitudes (OMG lower taxes) until you get elected.

[blm]

32. Because most every GOP voter supported Bush unquestioningly on those wars.

Rand doesn't want his voters to know how dumb he thinks they were to support Bush.

[DJ13]

6. He probably doesnt want to answer since he needs the far right's vote

[MidwestRick]

12. Probably correct.

[MidwestRick]

4. Why?

Where and why was Spitzer questioning him? Is Spitzer in the media now?

-MR

[NNN0LHI]

5. He must be subbing for Ratigan on MSNBC today

[MidwestRick]

10. Not sure why he is a Republican?

Look at the items the link I provided he supports and defends...

Attacks McConnell
HW Bush and Regan policies

Pro-pot
Opposes anti drug laws
Opposed Iraq and Afghanistan and their surges.
Wants GITMO closed
Opposes Kentucky Coal

-MR

[jmowreader]

16. None of these positions are contrary to doctrinal Libertarianism

The reason he's running as a Republican rather than a Libertarian is that Libertarians are essentially unelectable. Half the Repukes in the country won't vote for them because they think libertarian is a fancy word for "liberal," and the other half won't vote for them because of their stance on drug laws. Democrats, of course, won't vote for them because we know what Libertarians actually are. I once went to the Libertarian Party website and went through their list of all the Libertarians who were currently serving in elected office. It's all dogcatchers, and there aren't very many of them on the list.

[JackRiddler]

17. Fact: Libertarian was originally a fancy word for anarcho-socialists

Really! Look it up.

[jmowreader]

27. That isn't what it means now, though

We talk about "small-l" and "big-L" libertarians.

Small-l libertarianism ideally calls for privatizing EVERYTHING. They want no government whatsoever. Under pure small-l libertarianism your house would burn down because the fire society you were subscribed to was busy extinguishing someone else's house (which caught fire because he hired the cheapest electrician in the world to install his new water heater, and the cheapskate pulled 14-gauge wire rather than 10-gauge in an attempt to save five bucks; yours caught fire because you were smoking cigars in bed, dribbled ashes on your unregulated blanket and watched it go up in flames) and no other fire society will take calls from yours. They WILL, however, come over and spray water on your neighbor's house so it doesn't burn down.

Big-L Libertarianism is pro-drug Republicanism.

[NNN0LHI]

22. That link you provided isn't a Rand Paul sponsored site. Its his opponents

Do you have a link to an actual Rand Paul election site where he says those are his positions?

Thanks in advance.

Don

[alfredo]

33. He has an R behind his name and that is enough for many. He could be

for having sex with aborted fetuses, just as long as he's a Republican he'll win.


I'm a precinct judge, so I will be busy tomorrow.

[Tx4obama]

9. MSNBC needs to bring back Schuster ASAP! n/t

[OHdem10]

11. He is a hardline Libertarian and just the other day, I heard someone

report he does NOT support either war. Ron Paul, arch Libertarian
does not support either war or at least gives that impression.

Libertarians are like the Old Classical Conservatives who
believed in avoiding all these "foreign entanglements"
including war. War is a last resort and they meant last
resort.

[MidwestRick]

14. I can't disagree

with not being pro-war unless it's the absolutely last resort.

[PCIntern]

18. well, then you can't say that you wouldn't deny

a negative choice in disagreement with whichever indivdual is not repudiating the inalienable right to not perform that negative function.

[SpiralHawk]

13. Typical Republibericon Teabaggerite Asshat - no straight

answers. A record of FAIL, Fear & Flatulence.

[slackmaster]

15. What business does Eliot Spitzer have asking anyone anything now?

I thought he resigned in disgrace.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

20. He did resign in disgrace.

But I believe he is poised for a comeback.

[slackmaster]

25. I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher

:argh:

He lied to his wife. He lied to the people of New York. He broke the law. Why should I trust him to do anything he says in the future?

[druidity33]

23. high priced call girl? that's disgrace?

This wasn't some "hike" up the Appalachian trail, or "wide stance", or "long stroke" issue...

this was a man getting caught paying for high priced "call girls".

I would agree that it's distasteful, illegal, and maybe not appropriate for a politician (though they're in bed with more dishonest whores all he time)... but disgraceful? I'm not so sure.

:shrug:

[slackmaster]

24. He cheated on his wife, broke his marriage vows, and lied about it until he couldn't lie any more.

That makes it a disgrace.

Oh, and there's that part about violating the laws of the state of New York, which he was sworn to uphold, as its chief law enforcement officer.

[AllentownJake]

36. He was never charged with a crime

He has a right to make a living, you have a right not to watch him.

[JanMichael]

28. That doesn't matter in our corpo press.

Rush got caught for monster amounts of Oxycontin that would put most people in jail. Plus he "conspired" to have his maid buy it for him.

Liddy was an admitted/convicted criminal and on TV and radio all the time.

William Bennett a disgraceful psycho gambling addiction. He gets to interview people or at least did.

Good ole Newt G. was having an affair with a staffer while married then when married again filed for divorce when the spouse was in the hospital being treated for cancer. He gets to ask people questions sometimes.

Bill O'Reilly accused or sued for sexual harassment by his producer. His wife was pregnant at the time so he settled out of court to void being "disgraced".


What business do any of them have asking anyone anything?

[slackmaster]

30. I'm still not clear what this thread is about

Is this about something that was on TV?

[AllentownJake]

37. Spitzer is a TV commentator now

Mostly on Dylan Ratigan's show where they discuss financial scandals.

When Dylan is out, Spitzer host.

I swore off cable news so I haven't seen it in a while.

[slackmaster]

38. Thanks - I'd heard the name Dylan Ratigan but had no idea what he did

Sometimes these threads are tough to follow, when you have a daytime job that doesn't allow you to watch TV.

[stanwyck]

34. I like Spitzer. He's incredibly astute. No, I wouldn't want him

as a husband. But I've seen him on plenty of talk shows and he's incredibly informed. He's one smart guy. A smart guy who let his libido overtake his judgment. LIke Clinton, another smart guy I refuse to shun.

[malaise]

19. Great coverage of the protests on K Street

Bravo Eliot.

[bridgit]

21. As a Libertarian there's no way in hell he *can* say what's on his mind

[JBoy]

26. Sounds like someone who's been told he should go into politics, but hasn't done his homework.

[undeterred]

29. You mean RuPaul?

He's never been much for politics as far as I know.

[glen123098]

35. This seems very different from Ron Paul.

Say what you will about Ron Paul, but he isn't afraid to say what he believes, even if he gets booed out of building for doing so. Despite disagreeing with Ron Paul on about 80 percent of the issues, I respect him for always being honest. Why isn't his son like him?