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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 12:59 PM
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"Target The Mother" - CBS 5 Investigator-Uncovers AZ Senators's E-Mails & Reveal Future 1070 Plans
Edited on Fri May-21-10 01:03 PM by kpete


Author of AZ SB1070 Next Aim: "Anchor Babies"
by Sotally Tober
Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:41:50 AM PDT

A CBS 5 investigator http://www.kpho.com/video/23615713/index.html has uncovered numerous e-mails to and from Arizona state Sen. Russell Pearce and some of his constituents. Pearce intends to push for a bill that would enable Arizona to no longer grant citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants born on U.S. soil.

"I also intend to push for an Arizona bill that would refuse to accept or issue a birth certificate that recognizes citizenship to those born to illegal aliens, unless one parent is a citizen."



E-mails from the law’s supporters outnumbered those from critics by seven to one. One supporter wrote,

"I think it is about time we take our state and country back from the Mexicans."

"If we are going to have an effect on the anchor baby racket, we need to target the mother. Call it sexist, but that's the way nature made it. Men don't drop anchor babies, illegal alien mothers do."


more:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/21/868574/-Author-of-AZ-SB1070-Next-Aim:-Anchor-Babies
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:00 PM
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1. Constitution FAIL. -nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:01 PM
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2. But this is not about race!
:puke:
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:02 PM
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3. such a pile of bullshit. goes against everything the US is about.
living in a country that has virtually no path to citizenship for anyone not born to a Local Male makes me even more of a supporter of The American Way.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:03 PM
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4. And the Dems will sweep into office and revoke all this racist shit!
Count on it! Thanks GOP, I'd say keep shooting yourself in the feet but looks like you are out of feet!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:20 PM
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10. They've already swept into many offices in the last three years.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:11 PM
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22. Actually, all the Arizona anti-Mexican garbage is to intimidate legal Latinos from voting
Over 100,000 legal Hispanics have been blocked from registering to vote.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 05:42 PM
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42. that's the dirty little secret, isn't it? Voter ID, refusing undocumented workers state issued ID,
and it all comes down to denying all Latinos civil rights.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:04 PM
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5. So he's planning on circumventing federal law
I thought these right wingnuts were constitutional purists.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:05 PM
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6. I think this would be unconstitutional. Does anyone know for sure?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:58 PM
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15. Yes, it would be directly unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:00 PM
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17. Thank you!!!!
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:34 PM
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23. And to amend a constitutional amendment
the house and senate need to vote on it, then it needs to be sent to the states and ratified. And I think 3/4 of the states must vote for it. Usually it takes years to get an amendment done. Wouldn't help them in their rabid fight NOW would it.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:42 PM
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30. Thank you!!!!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 04:17 PM
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40. Yes.
The Constitution says we will have a uniform law of naturalization. The reason for that clearly is that each state would have its own rules about who could be citizens, and 13 or now 50 different sets of rules was undesirable.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:05 PM
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7. They all need to attend government civics classes
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 05:45 PM
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44. So does about 75% of everyone in the United States. I'm astonished by the massive ignorance
concerning the Constitution and government.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:05 PM
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8. What an un-American asshole
Edited on Fri May-21-10 01:06 PM by WeDidIt
Constitution of the United States of America

Amendment XIV

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


What Asshole Pearce suggests is blatantly unconstitutional and would open up Arizona to potentially MILLIONS of lawsuits.
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Dank Nugs Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:26 PM
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11. Bingo, plus in order to modify the 14th amendment -- requires 3/4 states to ratify n/t
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Dank Nugs Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:11 PM
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9. The pragmatist in me..
I have a real problem with this bill at the State level, because only the Federal Government reserves the right to control its borders which also includes laws with respect to citizenship, naturalization, and so on. Frankly, if this were enacted at the Federal level, I would have little to no problems with it. It's an undue burden on our socioeconomic safety nets, welfare, and so on. I would just love to be able to completely open the borders to all, but let's be honest here. Our economy cannot absorb the shock.

It's not our obligation to fix the social problems in Mexico, that's Mexico's job. You see, the Mexican government is implicitly encouraging illegal immigrants to cross the border to the United States because they send the majority of the US Dollars back to Mexico, which helps them. Plus, they don't have to deal with them. Why do you think the President of Mexico spoke out against Arizona's law?

I favor this bill, until the drug war is resolved and there's no more border conflicts or daily violence in border towns. So, either legalize it and be more lenient with immigration or go the polar opposite route. Look's like the former isn't going to happen. So, I favor this bill, but only if it were done on the Federal level. States do not have the constitutional right to dictate terms of citizenship. Sorry.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:41 PM
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12. Sorry???
So open borders is the only other answer? There's nothing in between open borders and Arizona's current and proposed racist laws? What a crock.
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Dank Nugs Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:01 PM
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19. How about this?
Give amnesty to all illegal immigrants currently in the United States, amend the Constitution to grant citizenship status to a child born in the United States only if at least one of their parents are naturalized or US citizens.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:40 PM
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29. Do you understand the amendment process?????
Two thirds of the House, two thirds of the Senate, and three fourths of the State legislatures must pass it.

AIN'T

GONNA

HAPPEN!
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Dank Nugs Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:54 PM
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32. Uh.. that's what I pretty much said. It's not going to be likely though.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 04:15 PM
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39. No
The 14th Amendment does not allow that.

Further, we don't need deportable people who were born here. We have a hard enough time with deporting the illegals we get as is. Add to that another generation - my prediction is we'd have three/four and more generation illegals - that would be wrong, unamerican as hell. A sublcass of noncitizens who could become a substantial minority. Recipe for unrest.

It's a very, very stupid idea and those who put it forth are not thinking it through.

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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 05:26 PM
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41. That's still crap.
And you know it.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:38 PM
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27. This bill, even at the federal level, would be unconstitutional
You cannot strip a natural born citizen of their citizenship without due process and short of a charge and conviction of treason, it cannot be done.

The fourteenth amendment is very clear, those who are born in the United States are citizens. The only qualification is that they be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and only those in embassy positions are covered under diplomatic immunity, so even the children of people who are in the country illegally are natural born citizens if born in the United States of America.

The only way to enact such a thing would be to amend the constitution to repeal Seciton 1 of the fourteenth amendment. I don't see that happening.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 06:28 PM
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49. Why perpetuate the MYTH of "daily violence in border towns"????
Conservatives spread this lie to inflame fear and resentment toward Hispanics. IT IS NOT TRUE. And it also is not right to spread this garbage. Here's the reality:

Violence is not up on Arizona border
Mexico crime flares, but here, only flickers

Dennis Wagner - May. 2, 2010 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic .

<excerpt:>

FBI Uniform Crime Reports and statistics provided by police agencies, in fact, show that the crime rates in Nogales, Douglas, Yuma and other Arizona border towns have remained essentially flat for the past decade, even as drug-related violence has spiraled out of control on the other side of the international line. Statewide, rates of violent crime also are down.

While smugglers have become more aggressive in their encounters with authorities, as evidenced by the shooting of a Pinal County deputy on Friday, allegedly by illegal-immigrant drug runners, they do not routinely target residents of border towns.

In 2000, there were 23 rapes, robberies and murders in Nogales, Ariz. Last year, despite nearly a decade of population growth, there were 19 such crimes. Aggravated assaults dropped by one-third. No one has been murdered in two years.

Bermudez said people unfamiliar with the border may be confused because Nogales, Sonora, has become notorious for kidnappings, shootouts and beheadings. With 500 Border Patrol agents and countless other law officers swarming the Arizona side, he said, smugglers pass through as quickly and furtively as possible.



Read more:
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2010/05/02/20100502arizona-border-violence-mexico.html
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:46 PM
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13. "Target the mother"
What a guy!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 05:48 PM
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45. Isn't that something like a "pre-abortion"? nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:48 PM
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14. Funny how this puke thinks he can override the US Constitution all by himself.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 01:59 PM
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16. Please help Arizona elect NORMAL politicians - see my link for one.
Thanks :)
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:00 PM
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18. Anyone born here is one of us.
What the fuck is so hard about that?

Jesus, people.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:04 PM
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20. .
:banghead:

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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:09 PM
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21. Anchor babies? Brilliant term...
It's so divisive and underhanded... It's read meat for the teabaggers!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:56 PM
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33. Drill, baby drill has kind of run its course
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 05:49 PM
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46. Sadly, it isn't new; this Arizonan first heard it 20 years ago, IIRC. nt
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MODem75 Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:35 PM
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24. Can teabaggers become any more racist?
It's just a matter a time before one of these hate mongers writes up a "final solution" plan.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:38 PM
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26. Oh, I'll bet they've written up several.
They just haven't been made public yet.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 05:56 PM
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47. I've learned to NEVER ask "Can (your 'favorite' nutjob xenophobic fearmongering RW
group) get any more (xenophobic/racist/violent/vile)?

They ALWAYS manage to. Every gawddammed time.

BTW, welcome to DU.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:38 PM
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25. "Russell Pearce's Drive to Outlaw "Anchor Babies," Otherwise Known as American Citizens"
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2010/05/russell_pearce_wants_to_eat_yo.php

Channel 5/KPHO's Morgan Loew did a segment for last night's newscast on state Senator Russell Pearce's plan to punish the American citizen children of undocumented parents, by making it illegal to accept or issue the birth certificate of such a child, unless one parent is a citizen. In fact, Pearce's plans to do away with the kids nativist, anti-immigration wackos call "anchor babies" has been stewing in his hateful noggin for some time. Back in 2008, when I dubbed Pearce "Mr. Ethnic Cleansing," he had a whole slew of Nuremberg-type laws he was trying to push through the legislature.

Of the proposal concerning American children born to undocumented parents, I wrote at the time that,

Pearce has made known his intention to put a referendum on the November ballot that would prohibit hospitals from issuing birth certificates to children born of illegal parents. Never mind that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution clearly states, that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," and that, "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

The idea behind this proposal is something like a blood test for citizenship, something that we thankfully do not have in this country. But Pearce ain't letting the Constitution get in his way, nor human decency, nor shame.

"If we are going to have an effect on the anchor baby racket, we need to target the mother. Call it sexist, but that's the way nature made it. Men don't drop anchor babies, illegal alien mothers do."

Pearce found nothing objectionable
to the sentiment or the language. Keep in mind, this is the primary sponsor of SB 1070, a man who wants to be President of the state Senate, though he is already very powerful as chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee.

Remember also that if Governor Jan Brewer is elected in November, there will be no veto to stand in his way.

Pearce has proposed equally odious legislation previously, such as only allowing Americans to wed Americans, sanctioning landlords who knowingly rent to illegal aliens, and so forth.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:58 PM
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34. I want to see Pierce's birth certificate. I don't believe he's human.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 06:02 PM
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48. Yanno, that would really be a damn good movement to start. And of course, it MUST be an original.
Seriously--I think I just might start a thread and hope it goes viral.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 07:19 PM
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51. ONLY the original "long form" will do . . .
AND it must be signed by three doctors--in blood. :evilgrin:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:40 PM
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28. Teabaggers and racists love the Constitution, except when they don't. nt
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:43 PM
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31. .
:puke:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 03:00 PM
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35. I think it's about time that Native Americans take back Arizona from the pompous asshole boondockers
nuff said
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 03:00 PM
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36. Bestowal of citizenship is under federal, not state, purview.
Can we saw insurrection yet?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 03:00 PM
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37. Next up for deportation. Descendants of slaves. Back you go. Adios amigos
Edited on Fri May-21-10 03:17 PM by NNN0LHI
I think its just about time to give Arizona back to Mexico. I just hope all the organized crime figures from around here(some I grew up with), and who retired there after they got out of the Federal Penitentiary don't come back up here.

Don
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 04:12 PM
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38. That's why it is ridiculous when people defend this crap and say it isn't racist.
Edited on Fri May-21-10 04:17 PM by political_Dem
Russell Pearce has ties to White Nationalists. What do these folks who defend the Arizona "Know-Nothing" laws miss? Can this be spelled out more plainly?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 05:44 PM
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43. Racism is like the camel's nose under the tent
Next thing you know, the filthy thing is completely inside the tent.
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 06:38 PM
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50. Time to maybe move
Out like our Ancestors moved in-no?
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