Mom has deputy handcuff her 5-year-old son

[Liberal_in_LA]

Mom has deputy handcuff her 5-year-old son

LEE COUNTY, Fla. - A mother in Southwest Florida is defending her decision to have a deputy handcuff her 5-year-old son to teach him a lesson. She asked the deputy to cuff her son outside of a 7-Eleven because she wanted to teach him to stop lighting small fires and stop playing with matches.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/052110-Mom-has-deputy-handcuff-her-5-year-old-son-share

pic and video of kid in cuffs at link

[Codeine]

1. Makes sense.

Put the fear of god into the little shit before he burns down the house.

[seabeyond]

5. ok. why does the kid have access to lighters/matches. i smoke and my kids never did

and why does she have no control over a 5 yr old. they are the easiest at 5

i dont have issue with the police. the woman cop is eye level and talking. like an adult should. but something is way off for this "little shit" to need this drastic scenerio to stop lighting fires.

i cant imagine any kids lighting fires with parenting. nephews, nieces. i am not just talking about my kids.

i say regardless, the kid isnt the issue

[fishwax]

16. kids are fascinated by fire

and naturally don't recognize the consequences. I don't know why the kid had access to matches/lighter, etc., and there may very well be parenting issues, but a 5 or 6-year-old boy interested in playing with matches doesn't strike me as unusual. (Obviously I'm not saying that such behavior should be encouraged, tolerated, etc., just that the fascination isn't unusual.)

[seabeyond]

19. of course there is a fascination as with so many things. part of parenting, especially at this age

for him to have set one fire says a lot but more than one really says something. there is more here than a kids fascination if he is able to accomplish this and a woman having a cop put handcuffs on him isnt going to do the job. imo. for a parent to not be an influence or able to control a 5 yr old, says something.

[IndianaJoe]

2. So nurturing! n/t

[Initech]

3. I'm really tempted to make a Ralph Wiggum reference here....

[Lance_Boyle]

4. It tastes like failed parent?

At least this was a personal arrangement between the "mother" and her friend the deputy, and not another case of an unfit parent actually calling 911 and expecting the police to parent for them.

[elocs]

6. Posted here 2 days ago:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8370382

[Liberal_in_LA]

7. oops. Thanks.

[elocs]

11. That's ok but sometimes here I feel like I have dementia

reading new threads that I swear I have read before. :crazy:

[BanzaiBonnie]

8. There may or may not be a reason for his behavior

So why not find out why he's acting out. But that's not in that mother's realm of possibility.


Watching "Super Nanny" for years, it's almost always how the child is being parented. When the adults take charge and are consistent you get good results. Too many parents just don't have the tools for healthy parenting.

[Liberal_in_LA]

9. 'Super nanny' wouldn't have needed a cop

[RandomThoughts]

10. Thats not going to work.

The Colors are free. And to those that think of money first, "You can't take it with you." I think that says the most about money.

Or maybe the proof of being alive
"Dead Man Tell No Tales."
Not about violence, but showing that there is still life in billions of people.

Brothers In Arms - Dire Straits. I think this is humility
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JkHBC5lDs


There are many people that have worked and strive for peace and better things, and in that they are given help to make a difference, I consider those that work for freedom, justice, and love, with laws and reason to protect for when people are not in love, to be part of a good picture.

And there are billions more people not seen on TV, but you can see the same ideas in them that is in many on TV, doing mostly good in many places but maybe not seen, that are part of the same good works.


Money for nothing. I don't think so. (Notice the change of context yesterday, not about a bad comment on any group. Destructors may have something, but it wont be enough.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5ZEzWwKJnY

:loveya:

Double Deuce, one hand above Ace.

Right boot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn96jR5Geyk

Skimming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91AcS4hZekY

Wrestle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E4GEUkgq1U

Without violence, I think it is an interesting comment on arrogance and authoritarianism, the bad guy in the last clip is the one that abused the prisoners, a comment that is really old and spoken of in many places.

[monmouth]

12. What pray tell, does your post have to do with the parenting of a 5 year old?..n/t

[RandomThoughts]

18. It is about eagle claw on the things that are stealing for their own gain.

And notice the bad ends up in the water, it is from the bad that the dead floating bad drifts to those of arrogance and authoritarian ways. Bad makes more bad. Just like good makes more good. Or that is what it says to me

The things trying to steal the motorcycle and control the entire town being locked by those that are trying to "just be nice" :loveya:

It connects at a higher level to the story, since the story uses nouns and verbs with many meanings that seem encoded, but I try to explain it without secrecy, from my point of view.


Only good thoughts for the the many billions working to make things better, although it is pointing out false hearts trying to decieve and destroy. I think things should be for the better ways in many people, and pointing out the good hearts in so many people, not just on TV but many also like those on TV.

[RandomThoughts]

21. A point to those that think on judging, and when I think in judgemental ways also.

Note we all do both good and bad, so it is a good point for people, including me, to say their are not any perfect people, so thinking oneself is better can create a bigger flaw. So admission of ones own flaws and humility to know, while respect is earned, grace is given, since all are flawed. In the heart knowing everyone can use help up from their flaws, since all have flaws. An interesting point for sure.

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[bullwinkle428]

14. My own Mom, along with, I'm guessing, many other parents

of that generation, would occasionally pull out the threat that she would have a police officer take us to jail if we misbehaved!!

Certainly a great way to build fear and mistrust from an early age.

[Rebubula]

17. OR...

....a way to help you recognize the severe repercussions of your actions at an early age.

[seabeyond]

20. you can smack the child to teach severe repercussions but it doesnt work. you can handcuff the 5 yr

old to teach severe repercussions but they dont get it and doesnt work.

what it takes is connection, nurturing, respect, talking, listening, teaching so the CHILD makes the decision that HE doesnt want to light fire. time and effort. all they did was teach him to be sneakier with it not to be caught. not that he doesnt want to start fires anymore because of safety. the parents are the ones failing the child, for him to have gotten this far and chooses the cop to be the parent.

to actually build the foundation takes a lot of time and effort. it is also worth it as kids grow and make decisions themselves. makes those teenage years a hell of a lot easier on the parent

[Rebubula]

15. I have no problem with this

Children that continue to play with fire are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

Couple that with the magic triad of serial killers (animal torture, fire starting and persistent bed wetting) and you may have a problem. Sociopaths are born in that way in most cases.

Of course....this is Florida.....