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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:39 PM
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Why even think about using Nuclear weapons on the spill?
There are other bombs aren't there? Dynamite regularly takes mountain tops off and it's used deep in the earth in coal mines without the need for nukes. Conventional bunker busters should be used. That's exactly what they do. Bust up deeper into the bedrock. Why do people want to create a radioactive fallout zone in the Gulf? How will that make things better?
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:41 PM
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1. A huge shock wave is needed. You would need a HUGE conventional bomb
to achieve anywhere near the shock wave effects of a nuke. Nukes would work best in this case.
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charlesg Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:55 PM
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3. Also, enough thermal energy to melt/pinch the long steel pipe and fuse a thick layer of mud
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:10 PM
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6. Why do we need such a shock wave?
They could use more than one bomb and only the immediate vicinity would be affected. If they think frigging golf balls and other scraps and trash would work why are conventional bombs not enough?
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:18 PM
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7. I dunno, hubby is a nuclear weapons officer and said that's the only thing with
enough shock waves to completely collapse and fill in the thing. Other, lesser stuff would only open it wider. There are a whole bunch of tons of TNT in terms of the power of each nuke. Tons and tons. Whole lot more efficient to use a nuke than to try to haul hundreds of tons of TNT down there.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:42 PM
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2. When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:02 PM
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4. Way too dangerous. There is no way to precisely know the
outcome. For one think,the explosion might create pressures beneath the Earth crust that could simultaneously blow out dozens of other wells. Please no nuke.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:28 PM
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8. There's an enormous amount of methyl hydrates frozen into the sea floor down there
Any large explosion could set off a chain reaction much larger than intended and make the sea bed unstable.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:30 PM
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9. Wouldn't it also start a methane fire?
I hear it burns even on the surface of water if you light it with a match.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 02:03 PM
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10. If that is the most likely thing to stop the flow is the flow better?
this is uncharted territory - literally
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:05 PM
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5. I've seen this movie
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059065/

OK, that's not what would happen, but it still has Karmageddon written all over it.

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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 02:05 PM
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11. Progressives deciding whether they prefer unstoppable oil flow to a nuclear explosion
it should please the do something crowd but who knows?
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TampaAnimus2010 Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 02:10 PM
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12. They use conventional explosives all the time...
but generally to close wells that dont have high pressure oil coming through them anymore... they just close old wells. I cant imagine how you get enough explosives past the out-rush of high pressure oil to amount to anything.

As long as they drop the nuke down far enough so theres no risk of opening a fissure to the top, it should be fine. Blow the hole, seal it, and pour in concrete to finish it off. I would expect very little radiation to get out... and certainly less then the risk of letting it keep pouring more oil out.
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