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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:11 PM
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"Badly veiled women and girls are like foot soldiers of the United States" says Iranian assholes
Edited on Sun May-23-10 05:13 PM by Liberal_in_LA
Tighten your hijab, ladies, and pull on your manteau. The months-long siesta for religious hard-liners in the Islamic Republic of Iran appears to have drawn to a close as two Friday prayer leaders called for a crackdown on the immodest dress of women, potentially laying the groundwork for more harassment of women in public.

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In Mashhad, the second largest city in Iran, similar cries could be heard by Ayatollah Ahmad Alam-al-Hoda. During his sermon, Alam-al-Hoda connected the issue of immodest dress to foreign influence. "Badly veiled women and girls are like foot soldiers of the United States. Our enemies intend to pull the rug of religion from under the feet of our youth by spreading bad veil in the society," as reported by Fars News Agency.

Ultimately, Alam-al-Hoda said women's dress has an effect on men. "Anytime badly veiled women and girls sport strong makeup to deviate a young man from the right path, the enemy will be pleased with victory. These badly veiled women are knowingly or unknowingly fighting on the enemy's front."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2010/05/friday-prayer-preachers-focus-on-improper-hijab-in-iran.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BabylonBeyond+%28Babylon+%26+Beyond+Blog%29

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:13 PM
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:14 PM
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2. Baboons don't force their females to cover themselves like mummies
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:14 PM
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3. Watch out Alam-al-Hoda... Boobquake 2 may be invoked.
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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:16 PM
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4. Here's a concept for ya, Abdul......
Keep it in your khandura!
Just because you lose your shit whenever a pretty face walks by doesn't mean that all the women in your country have to dress like beekeepers.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:19 PM
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5. United States, Iran's "enemies".
Wonderful.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:47 PM
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10. In fact, most Iranians consider Americans friends.
It's the current rulership who is doing the enemy talk, and sadly enough, we laid the groundwork for that with intrusive acts that go back at least to the overthrow of Mossadegh in 1953. Nothing like giving people a reason to hate you.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:52 PM
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13. Which Rulership
""It's the current rulership who is doing the enemy talk""

Iran or USA/Israel?
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:23 PM
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6. Damn all the women who lead men astray with their beauty!
Ya have ta punish them! Humiliate them! Make them cover their harlot bodies and hide their hair or men will go crazy nuts thinking about evil SEX!

For people who like to make others think they have brass balls they're sure as wimpy as they come. Why the mere sight of a woman's hair will make them go wild with lust and they'll give up all pretense of decency and religiosity as they start drooling from being struck stupid by those evil testing women who are obviously put on the planet to overcome men with the mere bat of an eyelash or indecently showing their hairline and maybe even a toe or fingers!


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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:33 PM
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7. Bomb Iran
Maybe we should bomb and invade Iran just like we did Iraq.

We can bring them freedom (from their lives)
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:41 PM
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9. Israel will get around to it eventually
Unless Ah'm-a-nutjob resigns or dies, and is replaced by someone with a brain.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:49 PM
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12. Why is he a Nutjob?
and why is it Israel's or the USA's job to bomb them?

because of burkas or because the West wants control of their oil? Or because they set up to trade their oil in Euros in place of $$'s?

Whenever a country doesn't do what our greed pig corps want we should bomb them and replace their leaders with our puppets correct?
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:46 PM
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18. I think he's a nutjob, because of the many nutty statements
he's made and his nutty policies. And it has nothing to do with oil.

I don't think we should bomb them, though.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:58 AM
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22. Some people here think that critizing certain nations means you support bombing them...
It's as if they think discussing other nations politics and issues is off limits. And everything is related to the US and their views are very american-centric... It's like a weird form of that ugly American thing.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:19 AM
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25. Well stated
Just his remarks on gay people qualify him for that, but he's went way beyond that on a number of topics.

We won't bomb Iran, we don't have the political will to do so. It will be Israel, right when their intelligence tells them that Iran is going to launch against them. Maybe there should be a "hot line" between Jerusalem and Teheran like there was between Washington, D. C. and Moscow, that was probably one of the things that prevented nuclear war in the 1960's.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:46 PM
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28. It Has Everything To Do With Oil
Iran opened an oil trading bourse that uses Euros not US $dollars.

that's one of the main reasons we took out Saddam, and it's one of the main reasons we are going after Iran.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:25 PM
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30. Actually, it's much more complicated than that. It STARTED as
"all about oil". But Ahmadinejad is definitely a "nutcase" regardless of Iran's oil or whether they use petrodollars or euros. Remember "we don't have homosexuals in Iran"? What about the recent stolen election and his response? Remember Neda Agha-Soltan?

Here's a little known fact. The Koran forbids that virgins be executed. Therefore, when the Iranian state sentences a virgin girl to death, the night before her scheduled execution she is "married" to a guard who then rapes her so she can be executed in the morning. Does that not sound a little "crazy" to you?

Yes, the US and our thirst for oil is largely responsible for this. We installed and supported the Shah because he was friendly to the US and we wanted to ensure our oil supply from Iran. But the Shah was extremely brutal. As part of our agreement, many Iranians were given grants to attend college in the US. The university I attended from 1976-80, TN Tech University in Cookeville, had many Iranian students because of our engineering department.

I well remember the well-organized and peaceful protests that these students staged. They wore make-shift masks of notebook paper, rubber-bands and paper-clips because they knew if they were recognized their families would be executed by the Shah. The same Shah that the US put in power and still supported.

The Ayatollah Khomeini was the most successful in opposing the Shah, and because of his success was able to rally the Iranians in a successful coup. The US did not like this at all, and we ended up "beefing" up the military might of their biggest enemy - a dictator we had also put into power in Iran's neighboring country, Iraq. One Saddam Hussein.

So, although it all started because of oil, it has gotten much more complicated than that. And, yes, I am fully aware of that.

But that still doesn't change the fact that Khomeini is a nutjob, and his puppet Ahmadinejad is a nutjob, as well.
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jemelanson Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 05:34 PM
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8. Sounds like these men have no self control and are not expected to
learn any either. So females in the presence of these men are in danger if not properly veiled because these men are not able to control their desires and expect instant gratification of their sexual urges. Also it smacks of women not knowing their proper place in society as inferiors and not being submissive enough to the males.


Kinda like the Southern Baptists claiming that women who are abused by their husbands are at fault because they are not submissive enough to their husbands.

http://current.com/entertainment/wtf/89109622_women-who-dont-submit-to-husbands-are-to-blame-for-domestic-violence-says-baptist-scholar.htm



Bad marriage 'not an excuse for sin,' speaker tells seminary women
By Bob Allen
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (ABP) -- A Boyce College instructor told women at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary that a bad marriage is "not an excuse for sin," and in a worst-case scenario a submissive wife might be forced to "suffer wrong."


http://www.abpnews.com/content/view/4535/53/





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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:09 PM
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11. why don't muslim men have to wear these as well? nt
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 10:50 PM
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14. It's just another way women across cultures are expected to shoulder the morality burden
singlehandedly, and be responsible for keeping men in line...another front of the Penile Apologists.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 10:53 PM
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15. Of go fuck yourselves, you misogynist twats!
:puke:
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:32 AM
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21. Now, now...
You must be sensitive regarding their culture. Wouldn't want to offend them by implying that the attitudes toward women and minorities in their culture are somehow inferior to Western nations.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:39 AM
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27. Well, those relativists can go screw themselves, too!
:)
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:28 PM
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31. You do realize the inherent problems in that comment, right?
It's like calling a klansman a "bigoted (n word)."
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 12:09 AM
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34. DOH! I can't beleive I didn't notice that!
:banghead:
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 10:56 PM
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16. I think the modesty issues of dress in some cultures.
Edited on Sun May-23-10 10:57 PM by RandomThoughts
Is about the men, and their inability to control some of their faults.

I don't think modesty should oppress a gender, and when I think on modesty I think in many more areas then dress, but if I was to think of what is modest dress, it would be what is appropriate for a situation without objectifying women by being to revealing, and without causing them limitations by being to strict like the Burke.

However it should be the choice of the women, not men, and should be with information and thought and feeling, not just an edict. And some training to believe things is a form of oppression.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:08 PM
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17. If I remember correctly, The Q'uran says about the subject only "dress modestly".
And the admonition was intended for men and women alike.

Q'uranic scholars, anyone? I think this is right, but I want to be sure.

BTW, Paul says the same thing: "dress modestly", in the Bible. Again, for men and women both...
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:50 PM
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19. Reminds me of Evangelical preachers preaching against
miniskirts.

I loved Rowan and Martin's take:

Dan: "What's your position on miniskirts, Dick"
Dick (leaning to the side as if to get a better look) "Oh, about like this."
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:15 AM
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24. Yeah, and a nuclear bomb reminds me of a cap gun. nt
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:41 PM
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29. OK, as a matter of degree there is no comparison. But the root argument
is the same and still wrong, whether it's about miniskirts or burhkas.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:33 PM
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32. Except they don't geet to beat women on the streets who wear them
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:51 PM
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20. Those women of Iran are welcome here in New Orleans
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:03 AM
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23. Who is this guy and what kind of power does he have in Iran?
Any comparisons to what he would be like here in the US? Like, would be just some religious nut like Pat Robertson or is this like politician here in the US coming out and saying this?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:34 AM
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26. This guy is as much of an asshole as the pope. Get rid of all religion, solve
many of the world's problems.

Fuck all of these people.

mark
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:34 PM
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33. I would like to see our borders opened to any woman oppressed by these monsters.
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