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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 11:23 PM
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Time For Another Darwin Award
http://crooksandliars.com/logan-murphy/ca-woman-killed-police-after-confront

A routine visit by a U.S. Census Worker on Thursday evening turned deadly when Yuba City police officers shot and killed a woman they said had first threatened the worker with a gun, then later confronted officers with a shotgun.

Sutter County authorities have identified the woman as Victoria Roger-Vasselin, 67, and arrested Lionel Craig Patterson, 51, who was with Roger-Vasselin at the house on Mariner Loop when the shooting happened.

Sonny Le, a census regional spokesman, said the worker, a Yuba City resident, showed her badge and introduced herself to a man who answered the door. From inside the house, the worker said she heard a woman saying that they do not want to participate in the census survey.

When the census worker tried to further explain the process, she said she saw a gun pointed at her.

Officers arrived at the Mariner Loop house about 10 p.m. Pavey said a man answered the door with a handgun. Officers successfully persuaded him to give up his gun, but a brief struggle ensued at the entryway when the man resisted arrest, Pavey said.

As an officer was trying to handcuff the man on the ground, the woman came outside with a shotgun. Officers ordered her to put down the gun, but "she ignored the order and continued to advance with the shotgun pointing at the officers," Pavey said. Two officers fired. Roger-Vasselin died at the scene, authorities said.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 11:28 PM
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1. Google Victoria Roger-Vasselin
She's got an interesting history.
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 01:53 AM
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8. Wow!
Interesting is an understatement.

Wonder what the real story on the shooting is...

:shrug:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 11:37 PM
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2. A proud member of the gun-nut association. nt
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 12:11 AM
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3. a DEAD member of the gun nut association
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 12:33 AM
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5. What makes her a gun-nut rather then just a nut?
The fact that she used a gun?

If she threatened him and the police officers with a knife, would you call her a "knife-nut"?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 04:40 PM
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13. Well, either a knife-nut or a chef-nut!
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 12:25 AM
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4. she was 67 and left kids and grandkids
so whatever else you want to say she managed to pass here genes on, NOT what I would call a "Darwinian" failure at all.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 01:19 AM
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7. Good point. nt
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 12:50 AM
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6. So, does the census now count them as one or two?
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 02:54 AM
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10. Two
She was alive on April 1st.



(Yes, I'm a census worker too. :-) )
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 02:47 AM
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9. On one thread
a thief gets shot in the commission of his crime, people have all sorts of empathy.

On this thread, an old woman is shot in her own home by government agents and she's a "gun nut" who by implication deserved to die.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 07:47 AM
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11. you approach a cop with a shotgun - what do you think is going to happen?
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 12:04 PM
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12. We have only one side of the story
I'd like to hear the other side. There are a few things that don't sit well with me here:

1 - She and her husband do have the right to be armed in their own home.
2 - Criminals do masquerade as cops, just because someone says they're a cop doesn't mean you are obligated to disarm yourself in your own home
3 - Why the cops were there in the first place, when there was no crime committed, seems very odd.
4 - There's a long record of cops lying to cover malfeasance.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 04:55 PM
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15. Pointing a gun at someone is Assault. A crime was most
definitely committed.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 04:44 PM
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14. What part of pointing guns at police officers don't you get?
Yeah, that makes them gun-nuts, and reading the posts no one is implying she should have died.

They sound more like tea-baggers who hate government and socialism as they cash their Social Security checks and enjoy medicare.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 05:00 PM
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17. Isn't it unbelievable?
She points a shotgun at police and they shoot her dead...what a surprise. :sarcasm:

No it would be real news if she weren't shot dead after doing that...it's called 'suicide by cop'....works almost every time.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 05:09 PM
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18. The freaking thread title mentions "Darwin Awards" which definitively means "should have died".
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:45 AM
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20. wrong
it means she died foolishly
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 04:55 PM
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16. thief > this piece of shit
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 05:19 PM
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19. More Cowbell.
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