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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:07 AM
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Proof Rand Paul's views on the Civil Rights Act matter now...
He opposed a Fair Housing Act in Kentucky that banned discrimination in housing:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/rand_paul_in_2002_i_may_not_li.html">In a May 30, 2002, letter to the Bowling Green Daily News, Paul's hometown newspaper, he criticized the paper for endorsing the Fair Housing Act, and explained that "a free society will abide unofficial, private discrimination, even when that means allowing hate-filled groups to exclude people based on the color of their skin."


I guess this is just "gotcha" journalism to report someone's actual words.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:11 AM
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1. No he is just a misunderstood good old boy
Sure he is.

Don
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:11 AM
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2. An easy measure of a political ideology is
to look back and apply the standards to history. If Libertarians had been in charge over the last 150 years, we would have gotten no where.

Then, look forward. If they would have stood opposed to so many critical advancements in civil rights and social justice, it is safe to assume they would oppose upcoming advancements. Same with conservatives (of both parties).
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:20 AM
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4. well it's not really that easy with Libertarians...
Because in some ways history would've been better, well if pure Libertarianism would've been in place. Native tribes wouldn't have been attacked by US troops, no slavery, no Japanese internment, etc.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:22 AM
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5. No slavery?
THey would have allowed the markets to set the standard for labor, including slavery.

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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:41 AM
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6. there's a difference between low wages and forced slavery...
Slavery has nothing to do with allowing the market to dictate labor standards.

Free states back then had slave wages too.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 11:39 AM
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7. Can you provide an example of an...
Can you provide an example of an expansive, vibrant and dynamic government and economic system using "pure Libertarianism" as its fundamental and working basis?

Otherwise, your statement seems little more than post-hoc-ergo-prompter-hoc...
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 12:03 PM
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8. I wasn't arguing that pure Libertarianism works...
I was responding to his point:

An easy measure of a political ideology is to look back and apply the standards to history. If Libertarians had been in charge over the last 150 years, we would have gotten no where.

I was saying that in some ways history would've been better.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 12:23 PM
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9. Again, based on what...?
"I was saying that in some ways history would've been better...."

Again, based on what other than post-hoc-ergo-pormpter-hoc? Or is the statement merely supposition and conjecture?
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 12:33 PM
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10. based on applying Libertarian principles to history....
Of course I'm being theoretical.Also I'm not advocating Libertarianism.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:14 AM
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3. A FREE society might tolerate all that
Edited on Thu May-27-10 10:14 AM by rocktivity
but a civilized society will not.

:mad:
rocktivity
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