How low can they go? ....... Fundies say end of DADT will mean more gay rape in the military

[marmar]

from TPM:



Family Research Council: End Of DADT Means More Gay Rape In The Military
Evan McMorris-Santoro | May 26, 2010, 5:07PM


Here's how the Family Research Council envisions things going if Don't Ask, Don't Tell is repealed: first, more straight soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines will be fellated in their sleep against their will. Then, commanders afraid of being labeled homophobes will refuse to do anything about it. Eventually, the straight service members will quit out of fear.

On a conference call with reporters today, FRC Senior Fellow for Policy Studies Peter Sprigg delivered the results of what he said was the first-ever study of "homosexual assault" in the military. Joined by several former military officers opposed to allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the armed forces, he warned Congress that the DADT repeal language currently under discussion with the agreement of the White House will turn the U.S. military into a terrifying free-rape zone where no heterosexual is safe.

"We are today releasing an analysis of publicly available documents which show that homosexuals in the military are three times more likely to commit sexual assaults than heterosexuals are relative to their numbers," Sprigg said. "We believe this problem would only increase if the current law against homosexuality...were to be repealed."

Sprigg said his "analysis" was military documents tracking sexual assault cases. According to his figures, 8.2% of sexual assaults reported to military authorities in fiscal 2009 were homosexual in nature.

"Yet homosexual activists themselves have admitted that less than 3% of Americans -- 2.8% of men and 1.4% of women -- are homosexual or bi-sexual," Sprigg explained. ...........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/family-research-council-end-of-dadt-means-more-gay-rape-in-the-military.php

[Raineyb]

1. Talk about blindingly stupid!

Are these asshats really going to say that all the rape against women are being perpetrated by gay men?

Oh right, they don't consider rape an actual problem unless it's imaginary gay rape.

Damn they're stupid!

[joeybee12]

2. "Fellated in their sleep against their will"???

Come on, what kind of sick mind obsesses on shit like this?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

4. It's more like sexually repressed people projecting their fantasies.

Sad really.

[joeybee12]

6. Obviously...

Even when i was young, I never thoguht about sex as much as these bozos do.

[Caliman73]

8. As I said in another thread: Those who protest the loudest....

I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, thought that I would ever be fellated against my will. EVER! Even when I have gone to gay friendly clubs (We have a relatively few dance clubs and they are gay friendly) and have been asked to dance or bought a drink have I thought, "OH noes, teh gayz wants to forcibly fellate me"

That is some projection there. Those Fundie Republican fucks are projecting their own fantasies onto people who fall in love and have relationships in pretty much the exact same way as heterosexuals, just that they are attracted to the same sex. These guys are truly twisted.

[arcane1]

12. No shit! I hang out in gay bars all the time and I'm never even hit on.

Question: were both their hands visible when they announced these "findings" or did they have them hidden under the table?

[Caliman73]

19. JEALOUS?

Ha ha. That was in my younger days. I am sure that today I couldn't even score a dance if I asked.:rofl:

Seriously though, these men are ridiculous. They assume that gay men and I suppose lesbians act the same way that misogynistic heterosexual men treat women.

[Soylent Brice]

14. republican fundie minds. n/t

[Blue-Jay]

15. Yeah, that happens all the time.

If I had a nickel for every time I've woken up to find myself being fellated by a soldier/marine/airman/sailor, I'd have......zero cents.

If that situation were a concern, I'd have zero sense.

[arbusto_baboso]

3. Clearly, Fundies are sex-obssessed pervs who assume everyone else is just like them.

What other explanation can there be?

[kirby]

5. I guess they support the current levels of hetero rape? n/t

[sui generis]

7. oh my god I was auto-fellated against my will

IN THE SHOWER! WITH A CANDLESTICK. BY COLONEL MUSTARD!!!!!1!

That's a mighty big word - do they know what "fellate" means? Do they even know what shipboard bunks look like?

[Zix]

9. They're really just not very bright.

I don't think they matter very much.

[Arkana]

10. Is there any gay rape NOW in the military?

I mean, come on--they're just grasping now.

[Ratty]

18. Apparently so

If a gay rape occurs, oh, once every 5 or 10 years, then expect the right wing to crow about it ad nauseum, even years after the fact. As others have pointed out you don't hear about heterosexual rape from them so much.

[KamaAina]

11. And yet nary a peep from them about "opposite rape" in the military.

Come to think of it, nary a peep about that from the M$M. :eyes:

[joeybee12]

22. Well, you know, women ask for it...

...that's what the fundy mind believes.

[havocmom]

13. There is an awful lot of rape perpetrated by heterosexuals in the military

Why the fuck haven't the fundies been screaming about THAT?

Sociopathic assholes won't ever face reality while they race past it to embrace myths that correspond with and reinforce their delusions.

Sorry for teh blunt, but this old crank is completely outta patience with the hypocrisy of the xian right. Real Christians face reality and work for justice.

[Stevenmarc]

16. Fellated in my sleep, where do I sign up.

[Brickbat]

17. Seems to me if they really cared about rape, they'd start speaking out against the amount of hetero

rape currently going on in the military.

[KonaKane]

20. Why is it always these wingnut fools who fantasize the most about ass rape?

Makes me wonder where their concern ends....and where their deep curiosity begins?

[WI_DEM]

21. Hogwash! I believe most rape in the military is of women by men.

[TheMadMonk]

23. They are probably correct. It will be tough men raping "nancy boys".

It will be the gays that get raped and you can bet London to a housebrick, that one of the lines they'll hear will be very close to: "Well isn't THIS <grunt> what you wanted?"

I can see a very nasty Stanford Prison Experiment moment coming on here if the brass decides that a "policy failure" is in order and fails to take steps to prevent "punitive" rapes of openly gay military personel.

[jp11]

24. Sounds more like wishful thinking on their part.

"he warned Congress that the DADT repeal language currently under discussion with the agreement of the White House will turn the U.S. military into a terrifying free-rape zone where no heterosexual is safe."

Right, yet this is the current situation where women are serving with men NOW and has been for years.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1968110,00.html


Their study goes on to illustrate that a whopping 8% of sexual assaults are homosexual in nature, yeah only 92% are heterosexual, overwhelmingly males victimizing women, 8% is allegedly 3 times as high as it should be in respect to the homosexual population of the military. It couldn't possibly be that of the 8% not all the perpetrators are actually homosexual but are the result of the kind of stupidity that often goes on with guys spending time together doing stupid things with their units. I do not mean to make less of actual sexual assaults but the fact that many young men engage in homosexual activities either as attacks on others or to gratify themselves when women are not present to be victimized, ie. men in prison, in my view that accounts for the increased rate of homosexually 'based' sexual assaults combined with the stigma of a man caught engaging in such an act when he 'clearly isn't gay'.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32006286/Homosexual-Assault-in-the-Military

[we can do it]

25. As Low As Their IQs

[rocktivity]

26. Well, if 91.8% of the sexual assaults in the military are heterosexual in nature

Maybe THEY should they kicked out, too...or is that kind of sexual assault "okay" because it's "natural?"

:rofl:
rocktivity

[pinboy3niner]

27. Yep, the status quo is the GOOD kind of "free-rape zone"

Wouldn't want to give up our family values. :sarcasm:

[Hepburn]

28. Sooooooo....if people in the military come out as straight...

...does that mean there will be an increase in opposite sex rape?

:shrug: