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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:52 PM Original message |
BP Now owns the Airspace Above the Spill, too - Bars Journalist from Flying Over It |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. who the fuck is allowing BP to do this? Is the BP air force going to shoot the plane down!? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Whom do you think? There IS only one entity: THE GOVT. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. well, yes. I suppose it was rhetorical. Ultimately, without the assent of our change-y, hopeful |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
92. And BP owns the govt. nt |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
88. I think BP's air force is the same one... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
102. That would be Obama who some around here are feeling sorry for. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. crazy and disconnected isn't it? |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #102 |
114. Where's all that openness and transparency? |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. "or scientists"???? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. No excuse for this. WTF are they hiding? nt |
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faceit (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
85. THIS is what they are hiding. Must watch - THE most important video this week |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #85 |
99. I agree... |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. It really doesn't sound right. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. In fact they did... |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. So as long as aircraft are above 3000ft, no problem? |
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BelgianMadCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
115. hence the aerial photographs a couple days ago from a commercial airliner |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
6. sorry |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. bs |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. Can you imagine the pandemonium? This isn't Michael Jackson's funeral. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
95. "And what actual, real news will they see flying over the water?" |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. Criminals controlling the crime scene. With whose permission? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. Have you got a corroborating source? |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Have you a source contradicting what was offered in the article? |
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katzenjammers (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. That is exactly the same content as the OP's link. Someone is plagiarizing someone here. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Logical discourse FAIL |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. you really should read something before you go bashing it |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. I do not click on unknown sources. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Are you kidding? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Sorry, I don't buy it as a valid source. Eco-blogs are not news organizations. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. That has nothing to do with clicking on an unknown link. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Dude |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. My attempts to a) help with your browser security ... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. a) there is no such thing as browser security |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Er, ok...I'll just back away slowly now. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. :eyes: |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Here... From Newsweek... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. :crickets: nt |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Hey, I Complied With His Request... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #64 |
79. What is this "newsweek" you speak of? I'm afraid it will puncture my "blinder security". |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. LOL !!! |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. Damn - coffee > monitor >splatter |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. Me too! That was hilarious! eom |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Didn't realize how much I needed a giggle |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
96. I wish we still |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
120. We should have the DUnce Awards. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. We do. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #79 |
121. a) there is no such thing as blinder security |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
101. And he slinks away..... |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #101 |
119. He ALWAYS slinks away then he has to go off script. |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
118. Is Newsweek mainstream enough for you? |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. Same here |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Yep, nobody would believe it on other sites coming from that source. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
72. post #64. Newsweek ran the story, too. nt |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
45. Link to FAA NOTAM |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. So the suppositions on the Eco-Blog were false |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Could you explain how |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. There are flights by the parties involved in the cleanup over the area |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #48 |
73. Guess Newsweek is blowing bullshit, too. post #64 has the link. nt |
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BelgianMadCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
116. the people on theoildrum.com gave this simmons & hist theories no credibility whatsoever |
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katzenjammers (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. That's just not even close to true. BP can't do that, only the FAA or DOD can and they have |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. "news aircraft are just a nuisance" |
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katzenjammers (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Please tell me you're kidding. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. You think America should just take BP's word for it? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Deleted message |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. Ever hear of a little law |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!" |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
89. ... yes. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #14 |
70. Well, that business of the people's right to know has always been a little pesky. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Really? There's a NOTAM for flights over the Gulf? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
61. Per prior post its only 3000ft and below. Not much of a limit... |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Oops, never noticed the alt requirement |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
86. An informed public IS a 'demonstrated legitimate need. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #86 |
106. +1000 nt |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
13. Why is BP suddenly in control of our Country? |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. The key word there may be "suddenly" |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. + + + + + + + |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. what the hell |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. "Time to throw these criminals out of America once and for all" |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. lock 'em all up!! |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
19. BP and North Korea |
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kittykitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. Is the Deepwater in international waters? Or waters part of the USA? |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
117. I wondered about the international water issue also.. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
26. they "own" the air? Who did they buy it from? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Same people who sold them the beaches. nt |
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Sheltiemama (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
31. I'm a journalist, and that infuriates me. |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
36. There's a REASON for that! and it's not BP |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. "The Deepwater Horizon Unified Command"? |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. you should - |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I'm just nervous about the name |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #60 |
105. there are non-government agencies "in the group" |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
41. Fuck 'em. How are they gonna enforce it? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. I think yes. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #41 |
75. Pretty much how the FAA enforces all the rest of its TFRs |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. But much of it is INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Because someone has to do it |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
57. K&R |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
59. THIS may be why they want to keep cameras away |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Major Recommendation. This needs its own OP. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. A lot of interesting discussion in there. n/t |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
104. Pozzi's the guy who cleaned the 800 million gallon Aramco spill in Saudi in 1993. |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
66. What a fine mess this country has become. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
67. They don't want anyone seeing the 'hole in the bottom of the sea'. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
69. All the helos I saw today in Venice were on the ground. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:22 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Unregulated capitalism means never having to say |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
122. Hey, Swamp |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
76. Here's why this story is pretty much worthless |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. +1 n/t |
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S n o w b a l l (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
100. Thank you. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
77. K&R |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
82. K&R... Welcome to the united states of facism. Of by & for the corporations. nt |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. FOREIGN corporations at that. nt |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
84. this is false, Obama told us the fed was in charge. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Speaks volumes about who is boss. n/t |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
93. Money talks |
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BanzaiBonnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
97. How? can this be? |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
98. Key part is "once BP officials learned that a member of the press would be on board". |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
109. We should put BP in charge of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan |
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Dem2theMax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
110. They can't stop NASA from flying over it. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Link to page with NASA photos: |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
111. BP = Government |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-28-10 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
112. Photo of gulf from a commercial airliner. |
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