In Imperial Germany, the human race began with the 2nd Lieutenant.

[Hardrada]

Where does it begin in the US? With the M.A.? With the Law Degree? I am curious. In popular entertainment, it would appear that workers and the less educated generally are treated with contemptuous humor and do not count as real people. Thoughts?

[JVS]

1. $45,000/ yr

[Hardrada]

2. I hadn't thought of the income angle.

That's probably pretty close though.

[JVS]

3. KICK

[krispos42]

7. Oops

I'm still five figures away.

At least I know I exist. Credit card companies want to give me 4-8 cards pew week. Mmmm... diggin' the corporate love...

[Hardrada]

9. I think they'll be sending me those even when I have moved

on to another spiritual dimension,

[LeftCoast]

4. What are you talking about?

I have studied German and Germany for years and have never heard any such thing.

?!?

[Hardrada]

5. This was a bit of Wilhelmine era sardonic social commentary.

Turn of the last century and meant to refer to the militarization of the German society. For a general idea of what this meant, I refer you to Der Hauptmann von Koepenick, an excellent mid-50's German flick which puts a comic twist on the situation. I equated this to the place where the Americans might draw the line at social worth.

[qdemn7]

6. MBA, Law, Marketing

Definitely. If you don't have an MBA, Law Degree or Marketing degree, or aren't getting one, or don't plan on getting one, you are sub-human. I hate: MBA, Lawyers, Marketing types. A degree in marketing has always struck me as like getting a degree in basket weaving. No, on second thought with basket weaving at least you are making a physical object.
Did I say how much I hate marketing types? :puke: :grr: :nuke: :kick:

[Hardrada]

8. I hadn't thought about marketing. I have no idea what they do.

Since I am an old-fashioned liberal arts grad. The equivalent to being a young officer attached to the German General Staff must be getting a degree from the Wharton Business School or the Law School at Harvard.