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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:33 PM
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Here's where we are in the Gulf
The cap, and all that, is not stopping the flow.

The surface slick has spread to the Keys and will soon be in the Atlantic.

The sub-surface containment news is weak. The last we heard was that giant plumes of emulsified oil were found and were moving into shallower waters.

Dispersant is still being used at the point of the leak, and will keep the oil emulsified.

No one has officially declared how much oil has entered the waters of the Gulf.

BP's stock has lost $70 billion dollars in value.

The Obama administration has, or maybe has not, stopped Gulf oil drilling projects.

The lack of solid information about all facets of this the greatest corporate catastrophe in American history is puzzling especially in light of the fact that we are living in the 'information age'.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:34 PM
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1. screwn
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:39 PM
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2. They knew how bad it was from the start and have been frog-boiling us n/t
:mad:
rocktivity
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:40 PM
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3. They're still working on capturing the flow.
They haven't lowered the LMRP yet. It's premature to say it didn't work, since it's not finished.

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/bp-live-oil-spill-cam.html

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6539#more
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skeptical cynic Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 03:55 PM
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4. Success for the "Top Hat" device will be whatever happens
They're already hedging their bet by explaining that shearing the riser instead of cutting it with the say will reduce the effeciency of the device by preventing a proper fit. If they are able to recover 50%, then they'll define success as recovering 50%; if they only capture 20% (which will leave the same amount of oil escaping into the environment as before the removal of the riser) then they will define success as recovering 20%.

It isn't premature to PREDICT that it won't work. It would be a reasonable prediction based on performance so far.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 04:07 PM
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5. I agree. All these attempts have been long shots.
I'm trying to be optimistic. I'm beyond depressed, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Perhaps we'll all get lucky. :smoke:
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skeptical cynic Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:53 PM
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6. I hope it works, too.
I was just looking at pictures of two oiled gulls on CNN. Just a tiny sample of the suffering that living, feeling beings are experiencing right now in the Gulf of Mexico.

The terrible irony is that we're not even seeing the tiniest part of the damage being done.

The Gulf isn't a pristine environment that's being assaulted, it's an environment that was already pushed to its limit that's now being given a death blow.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:19 PM
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8. That is the truth
People have tried to mollify the situation by saying recovery was a sure bet.

But the people in the know about the gulf are saying this is not going to be a situation where recovery is possible because of all the previous damage done.

Death blow is not an exaggeration. It is entirely possible, given we know not what lies beneath the surface.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:21 PM
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9. The cap is not going to stop the flow of oil
BP admits that.
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WaaHoo Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:54 PM
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7. We're screwed
That's where we are in the gulf.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:24 PM
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10. And all news of environmental devastation is being censored
or downplayed or being outright denied.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:30 PM
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12. The news from here on out
The first really down and dirty pictures of oiled birds has made the news.

And right after that, BP bought time across the board to make it seem like there is nothing to worry about.

From here on out, if the truth be told, it isn't going to be pretty. If the truth be told. Does anyone here think BP wants the truth to be told?
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:30 PM
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11. re: lack of solid information
...not really surprising at all given the total control corporations have over our government and the media.

BP has effectively controlled the message.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:32 PM
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13. Yeah, it's a pet peeve of mine
here we are in the information age and it reminds me of the last 8 years of information control, brought to you buy bushco.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 06:36 PM
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14. There have been many articles out saying BP gas stations aren't noticing
a drop in customers.

Many many articles.

Now how can that be true when that little green and yellow starburst logo of theirs fills many with loathing.

Sounds like message control to me.
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