Mom just told me she is refusing to support Obama after voting him in

[Hawkeye-X]

Two reasons: the BP mess and Israel.

[rockymountaindem]

1. I can't understand either one n/t

[mzmolly]

36. Ditto.

eom

[valerief]

2. What about escalating in Afghanistan, too? We could use that money.

Isn't 54%+ of our taxes enough for our military to kill and maim with?

[DrDan]

11. you kidding? That is barely over half.

[bobbolink]

3. Does it matter to her that Obama is pulling a Rayguns and apparently

ridding the country of those on disability?

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[dionysus]

27. there you go, making stuff up again...

:eyes:

[laughingliberal]

30. True. He's letting the Cat Food Commission handle that. nt

[NNN0LHI]

4. She thinks President Obama caused the oil slicks in the Gulf?

Your mom sounds like an interesting person.

Don

[dmallind]

5. Apparently he's CIC of Israeli troops too. NT

[Hawkeye-X]

7. She isn't happy with the way the government is handling the BP crisis

Felt they should have been more proactive.

[NNN0LHI]

8. More proactive in what way?

And when you say government does she realize there are state governments down there too? Does she think they are doing enough?

Don

[karynnj]

12. Has she seen any of Carol Browner's appearances?

I think they were proactive on the relieve wells, requiring two being drilled simultaneously. They were proactive in being involved in the brainstorming on possible short term measures. He also is looking at what can be done proactively to prevent a reoccurance in the future where it would take 3 months to respond and has a moratorium on deep water drilling.

Where they fell down was on two issues.

1) Communication. Obama should have early on laid out the bad news, letting people know it was a big oil leak and it could well continue until August. Then he could speak of the people working on short term solutions. Then he could speak of what he is doing to protect the shores and clean up.

2) While I think they now have far more resources out in the Gulf trying to collect or eliminate the oil, they should have involved the states - if only to coopt their Governors.

On the flotilla, I think Biden's early statement was awful. I think that we should have traded our UN support for them agreeing to a greatly truncated list of what they would keep out and a commitment to smoothly moving stuff in. Reducing the blockade to something like a careful customs process to catch weapons.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

16. Sure she does. That's what she's been seeing on her TV

I see a lot of people go on about how "stupid" the GOP are, but when you see a disaster such as this, brought about by their overt lack of oversight and "drill baby drill" mentality, be spun around to be solely the fault -- note I said fault not responsibility -- of the current Democratic president ...and have people believing it. No, not just believing it spreading it for you. That's not "stupid" that's a well oiled political machine working the groove on an election year.

Meanwhile, Americans sit back turn on their TV and have another slice of propaganda pie.

There are issues to be upset about with this administration. Obama not being able to plug the hole and evaporate the oil from the water are not two of them. Despite what the RW would want you to believe.

[Whisp]

25. maybe you should discourage her from watching FOX news

and reading DU.

Lots of misinformation.

[Bluerthanblue]

33. is SHE pro-active?

does she live as 'green' as possible? Consume sparingly? The lust for oil, and our unchecked consumerism is what makes deep-water drilling for oil happen.

Without the market, especially the market that exists in the US, there wouldn't have been this disaster.

Until we face that inconvenient, uncomfortable, life-altering reality, we can expect more and more troubles. And the whole earth suffers because of that.

:shrug:

(Mothers can be wrong, short-sighted, and foolish, but they'll always be our Mother. :hug:)

[LynneSin]

6. Does she expect Obama down there with a giant ShopVac cleaning up?

The mess was created by Bush-Cheney policies. I think the guy is trying everything possible but this is a giant mess.

[closeupready]

9. How naive. Why does she think the most powerful person on Earth can do anything?

Silly woman. :sarcasm:

[ladywnch]

13. so who is she going to vote for???? Mitt?? Sarah??? Paul???

what 'leaders' do the rethugs have to offer?

NONE.

[Oregone]

14. Maybe no one.

Who says you have to leave your couch on election day?

[Individualist]

28. Fail

That meme is as stale as it is asinine.

[MadBadger]

15. Where does she come down on Israel

Cuz there are actually people criticizing him for not standing by Israel enough...I know...strange people

[Hawkeye-X]

17. She tows the AIPAC line..

same as my dad....

I stay out of AIPAC because they're crazy.

Hawkeye-X

[MadBadger]

18. Isnt it amazing? Most of DU is pissed off at Obama for towing the AIPAC line on the flotilla attack

Yet there are others pissed off at him for not towing the AIPAC line on the same attack.

[MineralMan]

21. Toes the line, please...

Toes the line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line

[Peregrine Took]

19. I know I will never vote for "Bush II" again and I know 4 others who agree. n/t

[Tarheel_Dem]

22. Yeah right...

Everybody knows somebody. blah, blah, blah. :eyes:

[NYC Liberal]

26. You voted for McCain? nt

[joeybee12]

20. I like your Mom...n/t

[stray cat]

23. Does that mean she is helping the GOP as the better choice?

if so we deserve the GOP in power

[bobbolink]

24. Yawn

[KonaKane]

39. Yawn? Answer the question.

For all those here who bitch about Obama on a daily basis, no one has an alternative.

[Individualist]

29. Fail

DLC's "masterminds" need to come up with some new talking points.

[laughingliberal]

32. +1000 nt

[Lorien]

34. This often used statement only makes the person giving it look absurd and foolish

By your logic; if a person is angry at a DEMOCRATIC politician for acting like a REPUBLICAN, then they must *really* want a republican in office.

OK then.

:crazy:

[snake in the grass]

37. Evidently, that's exactly what we deserve.

When I see how the Iranians hit the streets after the last election, I'm convinced they understand more than we do. The U.S. is simply full of complacent, lazy, and ignorant fools and they have the overhand currently. It goes against my grain to not vote and I held my nose in 2008, because it was important for me to keep Palin out of D.C. I never for once believed that Obama would bring about real change. This time around, though, I could very well go third party. Maybe, when we've suffered enough, we'll get it right. The status quo makes me want to puke.

[apocalypsehow]

31. Pitiful. n/t.

[Lord Helmet]

35. lulz!! translation: "I refuse to support Obama blah blah blah"

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