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Tue Jun-08-10 01:52 PM
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If Justice Sotomayor were to perform a wedding ceremony for, let's |
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say Keith Olbermann (first lefty single guy I could think of)what do you think the hew and cry would be from the right? After I posted earlier about Justice Thomas performing the wedding vows for the Limbaughs this past weekend I reviewed. Why is there no outrageous cry from Democrats against Clarence Thomas? His wife aids and abets teabaggers, and he's all nice and cozy with a right-wing cretin? What's wrong with this picture.
Is it time to mount some sort of campaign to have him removed from the Supreme Court? I don't know of what value he is to the Court, he says little to nothing, has never, ever written a prudent or important opinion (to my knowledge) on any of the cases that have come before the court. His actions are very, very questionable and I think, like you can bet the right would do, is to ask for his resignation. It's unhealthy for the credibility of the Supreme Court to have this type of activity going on and no one making a stink about it. I would be just as horrified if in reality Justice Sotomayor were to perform a ceremony for any of our left-leaning journalists. Am I making too much of this? The Right would have had petitions, law suits and whatever else in progress at this point..
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Tue Jun-08-10 01:56 PM
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1. You would have to make some charge of impropriety arising from his associations |
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We do have freedom of association in this country, and I think that applies to Supreme Court Judges. If you could draw a straight line - bribery or nepotism - from Thomas to Limbaugh you might have a case.
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Tue Jun-08-10 01:59 PM
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3. Limbaugh is a hate group |
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:00 PM
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4. No he's not - and throwing around that accusation lightly is a very Coulter like tactic |
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:23 PM
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7. I do not throw it around lightly |
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I believe Limbaugh promotes hate. I have listened to him for a long time before when he referred to his followers as ditto heads. I believe he tries to whip up frenzy in his followers, most taking his word for the truth. He does a great dis-service to this country. And as far as it being a Coulter tactic, I find that holds no water. She is in the same league as Rush. Spewing lies and half truths.
If someone wants to state their views and have some facts to back them up, then go for it. If they state their views and refuse to give facts to back them up, then they do a dis-service and should be called what they are. Hate mongers!!
I am getting really fed-up with people like Rush getting on the air waves and saying whatever they might have in their small brains, feeding on the fears of the people that listen to them. This hate that comes out of his mouth has affected my life and then it is within my right to say what is on my mind. I say he spews hate and it harms me. If they want to sit in their little corner and repeat their hate and has no affect on my life then I do not have a problem with that.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:27 PM
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8. You are getting fed up with free speech? |
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Calling him a hate group has a pretty specific meaning.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:29 PM
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9. Yeah, it means they're bigots. |
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Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 02:42 PM by HiFructosePronSyrup
The KKK is a hate group. Neo-nazis are a hate group. Minutemen are a hate group. Teabaggers are a hate group.
Says nothing about the 1st amendment.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:36 PM
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12. Except that many believe that there should be legal sanctions against hate groups |
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To prevent them from turning violent.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:43 PM
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There are all sorts of people who don't understand/respect the constitution.
What's your point?
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:46 PM
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17. Fair enough - if you don't believe that Hate groups should face legal sanctions |
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than the situation doesn't really apply.
I will note that the OP seems to feel that Justice Thomas should face some kind of sanction for associating with Limbaugh, but presumably you wouldn't support that.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:36 PM
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13. Then I guess I need to have you tell me your definition |
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of hate group.
And no, I believe in free speech.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:40 PM
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14. Hate Group isn't a well defined word anyway - but here goes |
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A Hate group is one that promotes hatred against a group to the extent that violence or the threat of violence is part of the groups make up. Such groups should be and often are monitored by the state in order to assure that they don't pose a threat to their fellow citizens.
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:19 PM
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20. Do you feel that hate groups feed off of peoples' fear?? |
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If I repeat a negative enough times
Fear turns to anger Anger turns to hate
I am having trouble finding the words to convey what I want to say.
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:28 PM
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21. I'm not saying that Limbaugh's message is a positive one by any means |
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Same as Becks or Coulters. But the OP seemed to imply that Clarence Thomas should face proceedings for his decision to officiate Limbaugh's wedding. That's where the issue arises. It's not "are some ideas bad and poisonous" it's "What should be done to punish people for espousing bad or poisonous ideas."
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:32 PM
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22. Everyone is allowed to espouse bad ideas |
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It is when they become poisonous and harm people that is where I draw the line.
You are free to say whatever you wish and I can or cannot listen to you. However, if someone else listens to you and they have a negative affect on me then that is wrong.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:35 PM
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11. Limbaugh is an entertainer. He says what he says in order to attract an audience. |
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The larger his audience, the better his advertisers like it and the higher salary he can demand. Chances are that Rush realizes that most of what he says is nonsense, but as long as it puts money in the bank, he's going to continue to broadcast what his listeners want and expect from him.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:47 PM
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18. I agree with everything you say except the very first sentence. |
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"Limbaugh is an entertainer"
I reason that I disagree with your first sentence is from all the responses you and I have seen on the web from his followers stating their agreement with his opinions and them quoting him. Most do not see him as an entertainer. I do not see him as an entertainer. I see him as a man with an agenda that hides behind the cloak of entertainer.
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Tue Jun-08-10 01:58 PM
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2. Well...the ceremony she needs to preform |
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is the marriage of a gay couple to really piss off the right
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:01 PM
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5. I dislike Thomas as much as anyone else, |
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but I have no problem with him performing Limbaugh's wedding.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:29 PM
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10. Well, Slappy has had some practice |
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He performed the ceremony for Limbaugh's last "till death do us part" public vow.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:05 PM
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6. Maybe I just don't give a shit about Limbaugh's wedding. |
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It doesn't make him any more or less of a piece of shit than he was before. It doesn't make Thomas any better or worse either. Ah, the magic of low expectations!
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Wed Jun-09-10 09:11 AM
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Imagine how much better the world would be if all our lives were so free from trials, tribulations, troubles, and pain that we could spend hours ruminating...indeed, stewing...about some idiot's wedding and who did or didn't perform at it.
Like you, I don't give a shit. He's just not that important to me.
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:46 PM
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Thomas did wedding number 3, he was merely a guest this time.
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:16 PM
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. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, whose confirmation process in 1991 included grotesque allegations of sexual harassment, performed the wedding ceremony. It’s the second time Thomas officiated a Limbaugh wedding. The last was in 1994 when Limbaugh married third wife, Marta, one of his radio groupies, at Clarence’s mansion in Virginia . . .
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