Best comment on the Church sex scandal I've heard in a while

[AngryOldDem]

"The Vatican is all too happy to turn a blind eye when men in its ranks destroy the lives of children and families, but jumps at the chance to excommunicate women who are doing good works and responding to injustice and the needs of their communities," said Erin Saiz Hanna, executive director of the U.S.-based Women's Ordination Conference.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127732984&sc=fb&cc=fp

I can't think of anything else to add...that just about says it all.

[polichick]

1. It's amazing that women continue to work for and expose their families to...

...that criminal organization - if women withdrew their support, the place would go out of business. (The business of manipulation.)

[pnwmom]

4. Women ARE the Church. Why should they leave it to the men? n/t

[polichick]

5. Women are second-class citizens in that church, when they do all the work...

It's insane to support it.

[AngryOldDem]

7. I've known a lot of amazing women in the Church.

From nuns to laypeople, who really do all the heavy lifting while the priests bask in their unearned (for the most part) glory.

To my mind, it is the women in the Church who are truly living the Gospels of Christ.

[polichick]

8. I agree, so why do they subject themselves and their children to...

...such a sick power structure?

[AngryOldDem]

10. From what I have observed....

...they ignore the power structure and do what is right by their consciences and what their faith has taught them. Faith can exist outside of a hierarchical system. This is why the hierarchy is increasingly seeing some religious orders as a true threat to their authority, such as it is. Nuns are becoming more self-empowered because they are sick of seeing what is going on and they are refusing to stay silent and "obedient" anymore. If the Vatican winds up forcing these women out, then there really won't be much of any worth left in the organization. And now that I think of it, most of the laywomen I have known don't have any children. So maybe that answers your question, too.

[polichick]

11. I was talking about regular parishioners too - it's the women who do the work...

...the women who bring their families to church. In my opinion it's crazy for women to support an organization that treats them as second-class citizens and rapes their children. Truly crazy.

[pnwmom]

13. They also ignore the power structure, just like the nuns do. n/t

[polichick]

14. They give their money and expose their children to it - generation...

...after generation. Catholic women enable this criminal organization instead of walking away and letting it collapse.

[EFerrari]

2. In a nutshell. n/t

[Warpy]

3. That's what disgusted me when I was a kid

If a man looked at a six year old girl and had "impure thoughts," it was the child's fault.

Males are held blameless, subject I suppose, to uncontrollable urges in the presence of six year old sluts wearing shorts on a hot summer day.

It's always someone else's fault to them, something that seems to be a common theme through all patriarchal religions and cultures.

Nuns have always held on to their position as churchwomen only by their fingernails. That they'd be dismissed so cavalierly for questioning a rigid and utterly wrong position held by the male hierarchy is no surprise.

I love Catholics. I simply despise their hierarchy.

[femrap]

6. If men are so incapable

of controlling their sexual thoughts and urges, should they be allowed outside w/o a leash?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

For years, the boyz have said that women can't control their 'emotions' due to menstruation. :shrug:

And given what Goldboy Sucks has done to our economy (along w/ Citibank, BofA and Chase), should the boyz be allowed to touch money?

I've long wondered about these things.

[LiberalLoner]

9. I read once that they think that human males will eventually go extinct and

I guess we will reproduce asexually. I wonder what that world would look like? Or even just a world that wasn't so rigidly patriarchal?

[femrap]

12. I believe

that snails reproduce asexually. They can have sex with each other or not. Whatever suits them, I guess. Wouldn't that be nice? Plus they're born with little houses (shells).

If there is such a thing as reincarnation, I have a reservation on a unisex planet. I would like to see how that goes.

I remember back in the late '60' and early '70's, there was an unisex aura....David Bowie, for example. Men had really long hair and were protesting for Peace. We all dressed alike...blue jeans and flannel shirts (winter) t-shirts (summer).

It scared the hell out of the military and the macho boyz.

The Kennedy brothers, MLK, and John Lennon were assassinated. I wonder about those who supposedly died of overdoses....Jimi Hendrix, Morrison, Janis Joplin. All those with a message of peace were gone.

All those who were anti-establishment died. None of the right wingers ever die. OK..Falwell.:hi:

Sorry for the rambling.