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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 03:43 PM Original message |
Is somebody actually giving Abby Sunderland a hard time |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. At 16 she has already lived a life most of us would envy at 60 |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Nobody that I've read here. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. There have been some grumblings about the judgment |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. She's young and it was a risky venture. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 02:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
53. I hear you. Oldest daughter in Latino family, |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. In these times of extreme crisis - I only hope that Abby's rescuers will be reimbursed for |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. You are absolutely correct with your last paragraph... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Lindburgh was an adult, doing something that was a first for mankind |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Records are not official unless the participant is 18 or over... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. We have several du threads explaining why this is BAD |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Oh dear lord. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Uh no. Not limited to disapproval of parenting skills. |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. lol |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Not at all. Everything you mention is a reasonable risk |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. You have it backwards. Warren Stupidity is *criticizing* the people |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. okay just reread that |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
70. Vindicated? |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
98. Well I would say this. There's a thread railing about how P. Diddy gave his son |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's healthier |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
75. Indeed. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. The saddest thing is that she apparently heard what was being said about |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Give me a break. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
80. Very true, SHE courted the media's attention... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #80 |
112. Not only that, but the next kid to try will be 15, then 14... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. I'm playing the world's smallest violin right now. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. I'll be more than happy to take it all back |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Of course she's going to be raking in the $$$ on the publicity trail... |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
81. The captain of the French fishing boat was washed overboard while rescuing her. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. He was indeed, and, thankfully, rescued. It speaks to the conditions and, IMHO, is |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. IMO, she and her father are idiots that give sailors a bad name. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Well you are certainly not helping in improving our image, IMO. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. The US Coast Guard stopped doing rescues... |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. I am very aware of what the USCG will and will not do. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. No, she was seeking media attention before she even left. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. What? Sponsorship is about paying for the trip. I am sure that shoecity, her major |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Videos were of boats similar to Abby's being expertly handled and going faster than 5 knots.. |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 08:49 AM Response to Reply #97 |
115. It's clearly all about Abby's big ego. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
47. Boo Hoo!! Poor Abby and her shy, retiring family |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. Doesn't it show her dad's a lousy craftsman? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. As well as having questionable parenting skills. |
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Born_A_Truman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. He did NOT build the boat ... |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Oh, thought I read that he was some master shipbuilder or something |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
82. He didn't build her boat, but claims boat building experience. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
37. The boat was a hi tech boat from Australia. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. The criticism is of her parents. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Exactly. I bet her parents won't be offering to foot the bill for the rescue... |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Yes. They should pay for the rescue. |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. They're begging for money to "rescue" the boat. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Sheesh. nt |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. I saw that. Those people are absolutely pathetic n/t |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. That'll go over well down under... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Yeah. I'm surprised they aren't demanding the Australian govt rescue the boat... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. It's going to take a bit more to salvage the vessel than several thousand bucks... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I doubt anyone's going to risk their lives to salvage it... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 01:00 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. If the money's right... |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
84. They're Fundies... |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
96. wow, I'll bet it wasn't insured. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
99. I don't think there should be any charge for the rescue |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. She's young yet. |
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murray hill farm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
13. Statistically, numbers most likely would show... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Only an innumerate person would think any such thing |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. No. A skipper who is unprepared for the voyage not only risks their own life... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
22. "accomplishing more before she is seventeen than most people will in their entire lives" |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Yeah, I guess there was some hyperbole there. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
110. True, most people aren't shipwrecked before they turn 17. n/t |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
23. She (and whoever) chose this. Why is it everybody else's responsibility when it screws up?!1 n/t |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
30. To bad we all couldn't have rich daddies who would give us a yacht n/t |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #30 |
49. As cbayer has noted- that's not really the case here. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
108. They they're even more stupid than I'd given them credit for. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
111. 7 kids and still manage to buy medium sized yachts for two of them. |
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tango-tee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
31. I'm trying to find a way to express this... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. The failure isn't the person's alone and that's the problem... |
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tango-tee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 02:18 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. That's true, Violet_Crumble. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
45. Ah, baloney!! She should never have been out there in the middle of winter |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
50. Why would I object to rich assholes sending their idiot kids on suicide missions? |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
86. Agreed, but somebody ends up having to save them from their foolishness. |
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Seneca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
51. I am just sick of hearing about her |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
74. So stop paying attention. |
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Kringle (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
54. nowadays, a monkey could sail around the world solo |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. THIS trip was interesting... |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
106. you're not far from the truth. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
56. We jeer Muslim parents who would strap dynamite to a kids chest... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Do we know for sure her parents are "lunatic Christians"? |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Based on some of daddy's comments |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I read some of his nutty comments, but hadn't heard any details. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. They don't live on a boat. They have in the past, but as the family grew, they moved |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. They're a family of nuts, any way you slice it. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Oh, you know them, too? Perhaps we will run into each other sometime. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. The quote to which you refer has not been substantiated. It came from an article |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Not lunatic Christians at all. Mom has been Christian for a long time. Dad was |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. So you claim. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. So I know. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I know you think you do. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Now, TexasObserver, are you calling me a liar? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. No, because that is against the rules. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Actually I have first hand knowledge. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. That doesn't change anything. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. You are correct. I am probably not objective. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. We'll have to agree to disagree on this family and their nature. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Works for me. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Really? IIRC, a few days ago you said you didn't know them personally. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. I have never said that, but I have attempted to be discreet. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
58. Inexperience and poor judgment is what caused her boat to founder. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
85. Umm, for the record re: "unsuitable boat" - This same vessel has already been around the world once. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. It wasn't in winter, rules didn't allow going as far south as Abby did.... |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Fair enough. But the boat was clearly suitable for the voyage. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Not by a 16 yo girl, though. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. She is a minor. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Well LisaL, that same sort of logic is used by people opposed to your right to choose... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #100 |
109. A lot of things parents can do to their children |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #85 |
113. Yes, and a chapparal has won the indy 500. |
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Kringle (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 06:32 AM Response to Reply #58 |
114. she wasn't the skipper in the normal sense |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #114 |
117. That's the main reason she shouldn't have been out there. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
101. disturbing amount of hate towards this family on this thread, from those that fancy themselves |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
102. Well, she started on second base, so I won't credit her with a home run. |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Especially since she didn't make it "home". nt |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
116. This young lady is not that different than Natalee Holloway, if you think about it. |
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