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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:14 AM
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Bush daughter: ‘Health care should be a right for everyone’
It seems some members of the Bush family are no adherents of Republican political orthodoxy.

Barbara Bush, the 28-year-old daughter of President George W. Bush, told Fox News on Sunday that she was "glad" the Democrats' health care reform package passed, and declared that "health care should be a right for everyone."

It's a position that suggests she would be willing to go much farther in reforming health care than the law passed earlier this year.

"What do you think of Obama health care reform?" Fox News' Chris Wallace asked.

"That is a good question. Obviously, the health care reform bill was highly debated by a lot of people and I guess, I'm glad that, you know, a bill was passed," replied Bush.

*snip*

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0613/bush-daughter-health-right-everyone/




Credit where credit is due...good for her for speaking out. Not that it will do any good...
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twiceshy Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:22 PM
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1. Your rights end where my nose begins.......
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are rights. They require no action on the part of others to insure. Only by the action of another may they be denied. To provide health care takes resources, which must be produced/supplied by someone else. If I am a Doctor, must I provide service for less than the cost to myself?

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:28 PM
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2. "must I provide service for less than the cost to myself?" Not if you're in medicine for the $$$.
n/t
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:34 PM
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5. I would imagine doctors who routinely lose money providing services
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 12:35 PM by hughee99
have trouble staying in business, which makes it harder to continue to see patients. Even doctors who aren't "in it for the money" have to break even somehow.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:40 PM
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10. But isn't "administrative costs" much bigger in the US
because of insurance companies? I can't remember the number but it's many times bigger than countries that have single payer.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:23 PM
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14. Regardless of "administrative costs", which are way too high in the US,
if a doctor provides service and can't break even, they won't be able to continue practicing. Throw out administrative costs, if it costs a doctor $20 per patient to keep the lights on and he only gets $10 from patients, the lights are going to go out eventually. This is true even in a single payers system, the difference is, the government covers the cost, but the office still needs to take in (either from govt, or from patients) enough to keep the office running. With my very simple example, if the government only covers $10 per patient and it costs $20, the doctors office is still going to close eventually. The doctor can not provide a service for less than it costs, regardless of where the money comes from.
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twiceshy Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 12:39 PM
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17. I'm not too sure.......
I currently work for a non-profit Insurance Provider. Can the government administer their caseload more efficiently? I don't know. By the way the company I work for (as an IT consultant) has lost $53 Million so far this year. This is since MA froze rates paid to the insurer. Goes to show you can't get blood from a turnip.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:42 PM
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11. The profit-driven model does have a way of corrupting every institution that applies it.
n/t
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:25 PM
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15. Even in a non-profit clinic,
They can't provide service for less than it costs without finding other revenue streams to pay the bills. Whether the funding comes from patients, donations, or the government, someone has to pay for supplies and facilities. Granted, the costs could be far lower than they are in the US right now, but it's still not zero.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:38 PM
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6. So you think the Army just sponteanously organized itself
and lives on air?

What about the infrastructure you depend upon every day of your life?

Picked up your mail today?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:39 PM
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9. We're talking about the parasitc insurance companies that contribute nothing
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 12:39 PM by dflprincess
and make their money by denying access to care. Take them out of the equation and health "care" costs will drop.
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byrok Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:55 PM
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13. Without health care,
it is pretty damn hard to have "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".

:banghead:

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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 12:43 PM
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18. "Certain inalienable rights" were not capped in the DOI.
Obviously the verbage left it open that there were others....that they may become manifest at some future point in time.

To deny that would be, well, the epitome of conservatism.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:30 PM
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3. It's a Shame We Can't Get Someone Who's NOT a Cokehead To Say This.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:34 PM
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4. Yell at me now, but I have always had high hopes for the Bush daughters
A friend of mine who teaches at UT said Jenna was a Democrat in everything but name

And Barbara is the smart one...

So....
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:39 PM
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7. I'm shocked she has a brain cell left to put this thought together.
After all, she spent most of Daddy's adminstration under the bar.

Next we'll be punished with what "erudite thoughts" Bristol has to say, Lord forbid.

:sarcasm:
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:37 PM
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16. Oh my god, college students drinking!
Thankfully, we DUers saved our brain cells by skipping the alcohol in college. :sarcasm:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:39 PM
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8. The Bush daughters always seemed to be liberal, but of course family loyalty came first
so they never spoke about against him when it might have mattered. They know which side of the bread has the butter..

Children often have differing views from their elders..most of the time, no one cares enough to even ask them :)
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:43 PM
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12. So what are her deep thoughts about cartel dads, their wars, stolen elections, etc.?!1 n/t
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