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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:13 AM Original message |
Paris police ban pork street party in Muslim area |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
1. What traditional French values did the Muslims encroach on? |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Oh, that's easy |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. "Little Africa" |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
4. People were eating pork long before there were muslims. Looks like |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. So you'd be ok with cooking up a mess of ribs and shrimp upwind of a synagogue? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. In a free country, sure - just as I held a keg party across the street from an Assembly of God |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Well, it would be one thing to inadvertently do something that someone else found offensive |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. In a free country, *motive* is irrelevant: freedom is freedom, regardless. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. "Solitude is the beginning of all freedom" |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Standing on a public sidewalk eating sausage & swilling beer in Paris, France, is hardly the denial |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. When it is being done SOLELY as an expression of hatred and menace |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:11 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Another Strawman assertion of your own making. Please try again. n/t. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. There is nothing consistent with any progressive idea in the stance you are taking here. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Oh yes there is. For starters, there was no "implicit threats" issued. Second, this is precisely |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Nothing progressives would ever do would be anything like what these fascists in France did. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. You're right - the theocratic fascists who shut down the street party in Paris wouldn't be tolerated |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:23 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. They Muslims weren't fanatics. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Folks who get a non-threatening street party shut down for theocratic/religious reasons are the very |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. The Muslims did NOT get it shut down. THEIR demo was banned, too. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:11 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I'm glad someone else bothered reading the article... |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. We don't "imagine" things in the story that aren't there :) |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Yes, the theocratic fanatics who make up that part of that community in that neighborhood sure did |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Where in the linked story does it mention "theocratic fanatics "???? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Did you bother reading the OP? The police banned two parties... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:11 AM Response to Reply #23 |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
41. Where did the risk of violence that concerned the police come from? |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. They're racist jerks |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:28 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Well, as someone else pointed out, the motivation for the police shutting it down |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:44 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. I saw that |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I suspect both events would have been permitted... |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Interesting |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:32 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. It wasn't banned because of the odious beliefs represented. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Yes. nt |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
11. Yay Freedom! nt |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Are you of the belief that the police banning bigots from a 'party' is a lack of freedom? n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:02 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. It is- unless the "party" threatens the public welfare. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I should have clarified my question and included a threat to safety... |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:22 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Exactly |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:05 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. You still don't get it. Banning bigots from a 'party' is not the problem: banning bigots from HAVING |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
32. The National Socialist Party of America v The Village of Skokie |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. That was in the US, and fwiw, I think that march definately should have been banned |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. I disagree |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 07:57 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I agree with you on Skokie |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. That's exactly what came to my mind, too. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
37. Vive la Liberté! n/t |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
45. So the whole point of this exercise was to piss off the Muslims |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. that's not a good reason for banning it. |
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