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apples and oranges (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:47 AM Original message |
Americans don't want change |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. Well, if America collectively DOESN'T change, it's going straight into the shitter. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
2. Nobody wants mountaintop removal mining in their backyard. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. Not to long ago, during the presidential primary, John McCain was making a |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
4. Bullshit, lame bullshit |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Those farmers like the income from the wind farm, perhaps. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I know quite a few farmers that have leased land for wind turbines, |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. The noise is very significant. |
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unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Yes, but wind generators are lower in arsenic, lead and mercury emissions. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Very significant? You must have some extremely sensitive ears, |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. O.K. You insisted. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Wow, that's an impressive list of links, did you vet them before you put them up? |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I've heard that one before, and it's only half-true. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Ah, you're projecting now |
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Cresent City Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Your point on decentralizing the power sources is worth repeating |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Over thirty years ago I started research this topic |
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Cresent City Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. More "power" to you - pun intended |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. And here are some more pictures for you of industrial blight. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Love those photos, |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Absurd cross to die on there. Do you have any concept of how subsidized carbon is? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. But hey, we should go with nuclear, |
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ProgressiveVictory (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. +1 |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
5. that's "conservative" for ya |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
6. Very true. We need our leaders to lead. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
9. Americans are going to have to change, whether they 'want' it or not... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
10. Americans was the good things they are too young to have experienced |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
11. That is where leadership comes in...and there is little in this White House. nt |
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mikita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
13. Oligarchs don't want change |
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Jenny_D (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. EXACTLY! |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. Exactly. n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
14. I think they do. It's just many have been fooled by endless propaganda |
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jp11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
15. I think it is more about Americans feel entitled to all of the above |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
17. That's simply not true |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
20. How come the kind of "change" we get never shuffles the deck? Rich stay rich, poor stay poor. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
27. Want has nothing to do with it... |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
34. Most people prefer the comfort of "same old", it's human nature |
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