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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:17 PM Original message |
It amazes me how tone deaf some people are. The faith stuff @ |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Rec'd. You are of course right. Thanks for pointing that out. nt |
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Sinistrous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. I didn't have a problem with that. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. I completely agree. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. Has Will Pitt started on the journey that he said we take - go down |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. He has been talking to us, all those press conferences and speeches |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. lol |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. It still sent me cold. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. So vomit. I'm an atheist of over 40 year's standing. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. +1 Obama gave a shout to atheist in his inaguration speech and the FIRST |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. not the first time |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. There's a distinct difference between not believing that deities |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
52. I don't object to all mention of them |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. But what does that have to do with this discussion of his speech |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. start at post 12 |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
130. thank you! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
226. Very, very well put. Thank you. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
63. 'faith-based GOM rescue' as one sage poster put it; & it discriminated against Vietnamese fishermen |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
134. How do you know? |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #134 |
153. and many Vietnamese aren't Catholic |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. got any first-hand evidence they are excluded from the "Blessing of the Fleet?" nt |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #154 |
160. huh? you've changed the disussion topic suddenly |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #63 |
166. Most Vietnamese in Louisiana are practicing Catholics! |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. I know what it is, but if I say it, the post will just be deleted. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. So you conflate that search with atheists protesting at supernatural mumbo-jumbo? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. When the government comes to force you to worship, then you'll |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Sure, but that wasn't the issue I was getting at. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Actually I just rolled my eyes a bit and listened to the rest of the speech. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. +1000 |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
206. Jeez, you'll even sell out YOUR OWN BELIEFS to support everything Obama does or says. |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. Geez |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. It's not my intention to come down on him like a ton of bricks. |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
129. I agree. I hate that shit, too. |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #129 |
193. Maybe one day the ignorant masses will be as enlightened as you. |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:09 AM Response to Reply #193 |
195. I doubt it. nt |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
87. And the Sky Wizard hasn't done shit to clean up the gulf he created. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
7. when the most powerful leader in the world invokes magic and superstition... |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. +1 |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Hah, seriously. [nt] |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. Ha! So true.... |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
41. You are off the deep. That is NOT what he was saying and you know it. BACK AWAY |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I'm sorry-- that is EXACTLY what he invoked-- "ask your invisible friends for help..." |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Paste what he said in a post. He prayed for courage...not for help in solving the problem. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. Not a problem. Here's what he said: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Deleted sub-thread |
Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
108. Well then he is very wrong, and guilty of spreading lies! |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #108 |
150. I Thoroughly Enjoyed This Post. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
158. MM, thanks for pointing it out. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. If you depend on God for courage, you really aren't depending on anything. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
73. Deleted sub-thread |
Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. I'll Bring the Eye of Newt! |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
148. Oh, man, when I read your subject line I was thinking I would see Gingrich with an eye patch |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #148 |
149. What Makes You Think I DIDN'T Mean Gingrich? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
59. Come on now, Mike... I'll bet you've spent time in the South... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
80. I'm from Georgia... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. I just take it as an acknowledgement of the importance of their |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
86. Are you saying he's tapping his inner witch doctor? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
103. yes, it is indeed "magic and superstition...." |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Ok. We live in a country with half its people suffering mental illness. Makes sense. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. Exactly. More that half also believe the free market solves all economic problems. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #109 |
136. precisely so-- at one time, most people thought the earth was flat... |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:13 AM Response to Reply #109 |
233. That would explain the rape of Iraq. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
105. +1 |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
8. Some folks, apparently, will take anything they can in their |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
117. You are correct.. but I see no example of that in this thread. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. The problem with it |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Exactly. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. It wasn't a fucking subsitute for shit. He wasn't going to give |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. If he wasn't going to give details, he shouldn't have wasted the airtime. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. It would have been a 2 hours to give detail. Get a grip on yourself. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. I've got the time, and I've got the interest. I want more info, not less. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. You will get that. First thing is to make sure people are eating, can pay their rent |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. And telling people "pray harder" is going to accomplish that?? |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. That isn't what he was saying. You know that. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I know he was going on about God when he could've been giving details. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
92. Deleted message |
Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
106. Wow, you have quite an imagination. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
76. Deleted sub-thread |
notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. He had time for detailed shout-outs |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. but, but, but, we armchair quarterbacks demand details |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Obama should have done a Ross Perot situation with flip charts and a pointer. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. No, we demand details as proof that work is actually being done. [nt] |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. Uh... |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Ok |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Do your homework. The answers to every single question you have |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #88 |
110. If I have to look it up myself, what was the point of the speech? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. I don't know. Did you send President Obama a list of your |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Had I thought my questions uncommon, perhaps I would have. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
124. Goals |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
90. Are you saying that because he didn't turn this into a 4 hour briefing w/ charts and graphs... |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #90 |
101. I'm saying that if something effective IS being done |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
14. This athiest family thought it an astute political move. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #14 |
167. So...When Obama Uses His Pandering Powers For Good, It's Okay? |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #167 |
182. I'll take the feelings of Gulf residents over your opinions, thanks. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
15. I heard it that way too. The POTUS was speaking directly to those suffering worst. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
19. You're probably right and it was the right impulse |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
95. His writers stink |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #95 |
104. They set him up for dumb stuff like the accusation |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
20. K & R |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
24. ah, so he was pandering! thanks for explaining! |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Was it pandering when he gave a shout out to atheist in his inaguration speech? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. Anyone criticizing him for that is not only tone deaf but also politically blind |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Did you forget the sarcasm tag? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. I have 'faith' that you are not stupid enough for me to need it. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #123 |
131. I've seen some pretty ignorant hate spewed on DU before |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #131 |
145. Try being gay and then see how much patience you have with xtianity |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #145 |
165. + An Ungodly Number |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #145 |
201. There ARE gay christians. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #201 |
203. Stockholm Syndrome exists. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
32. I thought it was excellent PR to the Bible Belt |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
132. My dad started crying" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. That is not what he said, you know it. He actualy said prayer for the courage... |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. And when the prayers don't solve the problems, it can be said that |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
69. He said, to be precise: |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Let them blather like idiots. I find it strange that people who sat they want truth can't take it. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
81. And here's the objection: |
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southern_belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. K & R |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
54. OK, but if that's the case it is called pandering |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
74. Yes it is. Pandering is fine in this instance. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
56. I agree.. and that speech was largely written for those impacted... |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
60. An OP supporting you: "My dad started crying" |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
62. i fail to understand why every religious or spiritual person here |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. Not all non-believers are doing that, you know. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. and he didn't call for legalizing herb in the speech either! man he sucks!!! |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. So... all atheists are pot enthusiasts? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. joke. it was a joke. jeebus on a pogo stick. are you high strung? |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. Obviously I didn't get the humor. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. i am not surprised you don't get humour. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #98 |
111. Because you have a history of telling bad jokes? [nt] |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #98 |
215. Some of these self described atheists are pretty thin skinned. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #215 |
231. Projection. It's not just for movies anymore! |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. °¿° |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
89. I have to second that |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #70 |
223. You are right, and I applaud their restraint and respect. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
94. It's bewildered me ever since I came to DU. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #94 |
162. Deleted message |
KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #162 |
170. What makes you think tarring my beliefs will gain you anything? |
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CBR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
107. I am agnostic and I have no issues with those |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:11 AM Response to Reply #107 |
163. Incessantly Discussing the Prayer Statement Will Help Exactly As Much As Praying to God |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
82. The ;problem is this is not, by a long shot, the first of the faith talk |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
83. More kneejerk reactions here to anything that smacks of faith. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #83 |
113. Why do you keep coming "here" if we disgust you so much |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #113 |
121. Martyrs. Who can figure them? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. Kneejerk, spew, vitriol, hate...there was a sale on thesauruses too :) |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:52 AM Response to Reply #127 |
188. And Bigotry! You forgot Poland! |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
120. ... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
93. Your post dovetails with this one: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. well, what can you DU, er do... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. Deleted message |
Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #102 |
122. My God say the Fisherman's Prayer is evil and will cause rickets.... |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. Eternal Damnation of bad perms! That is some serious hell. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #96 |
138. enlighten us.... |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Just because you believe that, doesnt make it true or even valid to people of faith. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. you seem incredibly eager to dodge the issue... |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #147 |
171. You are eager to defame any person of faith |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
97. K & R.n/t. |
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
100. K&R great point N/T |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
115. You're right |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
125. A lot seem to believe freedom of religion=freedom from religion |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. Deleted message |
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140. Deleted message |
WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
133. Because it's okay to be bigoted against those who believe in God |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. Spot on. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #133 |
139. And yet this thread remains. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Definitely an anomaly here. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. And yet... |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:02 AM Response to Reply #146 |
173. Much to your chagrin. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:37 AM Response to Reply #173 |
183. I have no chagrins about you. You are too fun to poke sticks at. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #183 |
219. Ah, so the bully in the neighborhood kind of thing. That fits. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #219 |
228. When you act like a martyr, expect to be treated as one. |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #141 |
151. Boo Hoo |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #151 |
156. Religion is a part of this society, even the religion of atheism nt |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #151 |
175. I hate to tell you this,,, |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #175 |
185. The 4 people you picked out in your little pic do not make up for the atrocities done |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #185 |
208. So then we can also assume that atheism via Stalin and Mao.... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #208 |
209. Communism was a religion... especially Maoism and Stalinism. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #209 |
210. I guess if you do enough meth you could come to that conclusion. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #210 |
214. I don't believe in nirvana, chemically enhanced or not. You do. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #214 |
218. Nirvana? I never bought their albums. But I am a fan of Tir Nan Og. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #218 |
232. Eh' Nirvana, Leprechauns, silly Irish wives' tales, What's the diff. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 08:22 AM Response to Reply #151 |
191. And yet, where is so much of the debate that was here yesterday? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #139 |
157. Deleted message |
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161. Deleted message |
Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:55 AM Response to Reply #161 |
169. Ah! No TL. Leprechauns are witchcraft. Creating zombies (Lazarus) is entirely rational. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #161 |
176. Today's atheism is absolutely a religion. |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #176 |
194. I take exception to your categorization. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #194 |
196. Broad brush attacks on those who believe in God don't help anyone either |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #196 |
200. Two wrongs don't make a right. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #200 |
212. Fervent conviction that the other guy is wrong is an absolute sign of religious fervor. |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #212 |
225. Fervent conviction does not equal religious fervor. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #196 |
204. Bzzzt! Wrong. Learn the difference between a religion and an agenda. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #204 |
211. You just admitted to being an atheist missionary! |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #211 |
216. Missionary is not a generic term. It is a catholic one. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #216 |
217. If the shoe fits.... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #217 |
227. It doesn't, but you having "faith" that it does is also cute. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #204 |
221. You have a belief system |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #221 |
222. And now, apparently, missionaries and crusades! |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #221 |
229. No I do not. I do not believe any deity exists. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #196 |
213. Exactly. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #157 |
168. I bet you think you nailed it. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:06 AM Response to Reply #168 |
177. They did. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #177 |
184. Nope, but you having "faith" that he did is cute. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #133 |
143. +1 n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #133 |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #152 |
155. If you were as smart as you claim to be (because you're an atheist & all) |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #155 |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:09 AM Response to Reply #155 |
179. Their eye-crossing hate makes the teabaggers look sane... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #179 |
186. YAWN! |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:08 AM Response to Reply #152 |
178. What makes you think this is all about "Christians"? |
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TroglodyteScholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
135. K&R |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-16-10 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
144. We have "Blessings of the Fleet" here on the Pacific Coast. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
164. K & R. Thanks for posting this. |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
172. Besides being offensive, it was unnecessary and baldly opportunistic |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
174. I'm not religious and I've just learned to ignore this stuff. It is what it is. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:10 AM Response to Reply #174 |
180. So just pretend bigotry will go away? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #180 |
187. You spin me right round Baby, right round... |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
181. Yeah, he was being a politician |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
189. I am just going to say that while I don't discuss faith or religion much at DU... |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
190. I'm not even an atheist. I just think he placed way too much emphasis on prayer |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
192. Didn't sound sincere |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
197. Good post. Tone deaf? I'd say selfishness of point of view. nt |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
198. You are exactly correct. I am not even religious, and the anti-religion |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
199. I'm pretty familiar with the fishing/waterman culture |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
202. I agree with you... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
205. This country was founded on the SEPARATION of church & state. Obama violated the Constitution |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #205 |
220. There is no "separation of church and state" in the Constitution |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #220 |
230. WTF? |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
207. Wasn't talking to us? Odd, I thought this was an address to the nation. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-17-10 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
224. I didn't much like it, but I wasn't much inclined to make... |
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