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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:42 PM
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HuffPo - "'Rise Of The New Right' Special Will 'Scare The Heck Out' Of Liberals"
I think the amazing thing is how many folks on the left have managed to avoid exposure to the growth of the radical right. We don't watch Fox News. We don't read right wing publications like the WSJ editorial page. We only view "liberal" websites, which have folks complaining about Obama being liberal enough. Yet, out there, there is an entirely parallel world of right wing media that a growing segment of the population is plugged into.

On DU, many folks proudly declare that they have managed to avoid any exposure to this viewpoint. Others, recite the right wing media narrative without even knowing that their talking points were first hatched by Frank Lutz.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/chris-matthews-rise-of-th_n_614400.html


MSNBC host Chris Matthews says he is sure his new special, "Rise of the New Right" — which airs tonight at 7PM — will stir people up, no matter where they fall on the political spectrum.

"I think that the left will say this scares the heck out of me, people in the middle will say this is amazing, and people on the right will be cheering for all I know," he said in an interview with HuffPost Tuesday.

The documentary examines the rise of the Tea Party movement and various right-wing militias that have formed in the wake of the 2008 election of President Obama. Matthews said the disparate people and groups profiled in the special share a fear of the power of the American government.

"There's a similar message," he said. "This government's a tyranny and it has to be, if not overthrown, then something like it. They treat the American government like a foreign occupying force."

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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:43 PM
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1. For people who have been paying attention, it was nothing new.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:44 PM
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3. Exactly.
:thumbsup:

I've been crossing paths with these morons for decades now.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:45 PM
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5. Very true
No one needs to convince me how dangerous the far right fringe is.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:51 PM
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12. It Is Not A Fringe. Look at Nevada And Harry Reid's Opponent Sharron Angle
She has a strong chance of beating Harry Reid, because the corporate media refuses to expose her extremist views. Look her up, and you will be shocked when you are finally able to find her position statements.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:21 AM
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20. Why don't you believe this is a fringe group?
Because they have candidates who won primaries?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:34 AM
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21. VG proud! Angles is just plain nuts. The 'word' is that all
RW crazies stick to Fox for softballs...do not speak to Mainstream media and NEVER let peeps such as Rachel or
other SMART people (KO) interview you. You WILL look stupid....remember Rand???
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:38 AM
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22. dupe...
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 12:41 AM by caledesi
edit: dupe
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:44 AM
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23. THE Sharron Angles??? I am so skeered! nt
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:04 PM
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37. Named that tune in one note
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 08:06 PM by JHB
Of course, there's still plenty who could do with a wakeup call...

Still, it won't show the biggest thing people need a wakeup on: corporatism.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:43 PM
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2. Now that the thing is over, why keep touting it?
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 10:45 PM by marylanddem

I know they're scary. I also know that this allegedly shocking documentary was shamelessly pimped for days on MSNBC...I hope those who watched were really scared. That's what Chris promised they would be, so I hope they were.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:44 PM
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4. Cause we are not yet sufficiently scared just yet?
:shrug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:46 PM
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8. Probably because a lot of folks don't know about the far right
and how dangerous they are.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:46 PM
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6. Campaign season's startin early n/t
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:46 PM
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7. There's usually an ignorant part of society
this time it has been the Teabaggers who have being manipulated to vote against themselves. Some are begining to realize their mistake. Besides the GOP are very nervous.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:57 AM
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28. Agree! The dick, armey who created this mess is now telling
them to 'keep it a secret that they are baggers.' Can we say D-I-S-T-A-N-C-E??????
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:49 PM
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9. You don't have to frequent their sewers to see their hand
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 10:49 PM by EFerrari
all over our government and media. What "right wing media"? Our national media is OWNED by the right wing.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:05 PM
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15. There Is Corporate Media Bias (Most News) and Corporate 24/7 Propaganda (Fox)
I think most of us are exposed to the corporate bias, and some of internalize it without even knowing it. You see the Frank Lutz trademark catch phrases popping up in posts. You can't avoid the corporate media bias without completely swearing off corporate sponsored media. On the other hand, most DUers avoid the overt propaganda. Thus, most DUers do not quote Glenn Beck and Co.

Case in point. Bobby Jindal and the BP oil spill. Many DUers bought into the natioal narrative that Jindal was acting presidential. Yet, the corporate media absolutely refuses to inform folks that Jindal sponsored the bill that lead to the lifting of the moratorium on deep water drilling, the DOER Act.

Don't you think that is relevant to the BP oil disaster? Yet, there is a freakin corporate media blackout on this fact, and you can only get it from outlets like MOther Jones.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:16 PM
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17. I have sworn off the corporate media and there is nothing better
than focusing your time on outlets where you have a chance to catch a fact. That's not going to happen on the networks or the cable channels or even the print press although they do let out more than they realize and you can use them to cross check better sources -- like Mother Jones.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:49 PM
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10. Of course, Napolitano did a report on right-wing extremism which Obama pulled.
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 10:50 PM by Bluebear
It was true and irritated the right wing.

http://www.lifenews.com/nat5052.html
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:52 PM
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13. And it wasn't pulled because it would freak out THE LEFT, either.
It was pulled because you can't criticize the right wing fascists in this country whom Obama still seems to be courting or at least pretending to court.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:59 PM
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14. Interesting That DUers Even Use A Report Discussing Folks Threatening President Obama...
...as basis for blaming President Obama. The fact of the matter is the Obama justice department has disrupted plots by right wing militias, as well as by Islamic extremists. I would not fault him for not using the Huntaree Militia for political advantage.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:07 PM
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16. It's not "DUers", OK? Fact is, this very damning report was pulled by the administration.
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 11:16 PM by Bluebear
Is that true or is it not?

And how would it be "using the Hunteree (sic) Militia" for political advantage? Does the populace not deserve to know truth? Why did the administration capitulate because Michael Savage was upset?

Blame Obama, bash Obama, trash Obama...what is he, made out of cake? Some "DUers" want to put a wall around him like he's seven years old, it's ridiculous. It was a good report and he should have stood by it.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:59 PM
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19. Wait, On DU, People Attack Obama For Words...
...Heck, they were attacking him for daring to make a speech before the speech, and now you are upset about a "report," when the fact of the matter is that the Obama administration has taken action to curb right wing violent extremism. Maybe, in the case of right wing extremism, you don't want to give them a reason to further agitate. I am making this up? Think of Waco, and Timothy McVeigh. Today, things are much worse with the growth of Fox News and a Republican party that has become even more extreme?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:53 AM
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26. revealing how absolutely outside mainstream values they are & violent statements
destroys their support.

it's the tactic used for the left -- why not for the right, instead of letting them grow like fungus in the dark?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 01:01 AM
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29. The RW is the MINORITY party. Who cares?? nt
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:51 PM
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11. If nothing else, your vote will keep this bigots out of power.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:32 PM
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18. The Tea Party was a grand success. I doubt that it was ALL planned, I think it grew in spite of the
Rove's and Buchanan's and Armey's and corporate tv and newspapers.

I think the Rep Party wanted to know how they could hold onto their voter lemmings and when they saw the protests of those who were talking taxes, they said this is it and put some of their own on it. We were the ones who named them the Tea Baggers.

Everything they do is predictable based on an old pattern of hate spreading. However ......I never dreamed that the lies that are coming out now could increase in volume as much as they have. Instead of a lie for a lie - it is a bag of ten lies against any one statement or move. They are lying from every angle.

It is much more shameless than in the past, if that is possible.

I haven't had tv for about two years, but I watch various videos and pick up on reports and it is still predicatble except for volume of lying tactics. I watched relentlessly for years, decades - there is little new about them.

But if a lie is a dirty Rovain move, they must have been cloned Rove ten times for the variety and absurdity of the lies.

These people that are the tea baggers and the leaders like Armey are not scholars. It is all run on the emotion of lies and not knowing history. It is a piece of cake to get them to believe lies with a passion. They are missing any ability to conduct critical thinking.

Long before the assassination of President Kenney, Bobby, and MLK, plus other deaths we all believed like they are now, but we didn't have quite the lies - people are much less mature.

You would think that they would reach a peak to the lying so that all the lies formed into truth. But, they also seem to be incapable of tracking themselves, they are in a fog of lies. They wouldn't even believe Ronadl Reagan if Limbaugh and Hannity and Beck told them something else that fed their fear and hate.

Emotive hate and fear is at the core, plus stuck recordings.

So, is Tweety saying what I'm saying or did he just give a big kick to the right wing? Pretending to do something else?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:46 AM
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24. Actually tweety studiously avoided
the link between freedom works and Scaiffe and Company.

I suspect it was an ahem editorial decision. That said, if you've paid attention what he covered we all knew. Alas his intended audience has not... so a few of these facts might be surprising.

What he did WELL, was to trace the history of the RW, including oh the Extreme (John Birch) of other eras and how the net makes it so much easier to organize today.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:29 PM
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35. Sorry, I wasn't clear - my comment was a question - I am only going to be able to
listen today on the net. Thanks for the assessment.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:55 AM
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27. if it's such a success, why the low turnout at their events?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:26 PM
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34. It's spreading without turnout. The followers are eating it up in coffee shops, post
offices, parking lots, backyards, school waitng areas. I hear it. Certain favorites have exploded in acceptance and rejuventation - especially everything about taxes and taking guns. Whether they march or not, they have been corralled again and safe-guarded for their votes. Bachmann at the charge along with corporate media propaganda pushers.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:48 AM
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25. hope the radical left surges, & doesn't fall for"vote us despite our corporatism" scare tactics
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vercetti2021 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 01:08 AM
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30. Oh yes
Like some misinformed dipshits that yell "We Want Our Country Back" really scares me, it made me LMAO.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 01:10 AM
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31. It's only scary because they put spooky dark music behind everything.
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 01:11 AM by Kablooie
I mean when you hear Sarah Palin make dorky comments and feel frightened, you know it's not the content you are scared of.

It's showbiz folks. Want to see more of these people but before 9/11 but with different music, check out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYd-o0Shmn4
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 01:20 AM
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32. The music was really "strained". I was listening
and not watching all parts of it. It was really, really noticeable.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 02:02 AM
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33. Still not afraid.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 07:50 PM
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36. Okay, I'll watch. But.......
Noise is not numbers.
Disruption is not action.
Complaining is not problem solving.
Trying to return to the past has a long history of failure.
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