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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:09 AM
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No rational human would ever accept bipartisanship in the future will succeed after yesterday.
The Total Failure of Bipartisanship
The constant open fight with the Republicans has to be coming, just as it always was and will be. The longer that gets put off the more hammer blows will be inflicted on the country and the Democratic Party, there is no escape.
by paradox

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A very old story, yes, but it bears repeating in how much brutal confidence it gives the Republicans. When the media always enables the opposition the only way to generate political pushback is to be confrontational, of course, and what does the opposition perceive when that pushback takes the form of we’re tired of fighting from the past, we’ll work with you? Weakness.

That is not word the Republicans use when offered an olive branch in circumstances that absolutely demand a drag-out political brawl, by the way.


Another aged tale of a thousand repetitions, how weary well all are of the inviolate facts of Republican behavior. Still, the test of bipartisanship being applied is fresh and of the utmost importance the Republic. The Republicans were complete lunatic bad faith actors after years of conciliatory approach, no rational human would ever accept bipartisanship in the future will succeed after yesterday.

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I desperately want President Obama to succeed, I like serving my Party manifestly more than scolding it, fear rarely enters my psychology anymore but the Republicans consistently scare me. Bipartisanship has totally failed in its attempt, does the Obama administration want to keep losing critical votes from a vicious opposition while taking the blame for not being able to accomplish anything?



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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:13 AM
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1. How I wish Obama would get this message.
Recommended.

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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:21 AM
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2. I agree 100%, Peggy.
Edited on Fri Jun-25-10 10:22 AM by mohinoaklawnillinois
Obama needs to let that fantasy go. The Pukes are out to destroy him and some of his own people, I believe are in on it as well. I keep thinking back to Jimmy Carter and how he was destroyed by the Pukes. Seems like deja vu all over again. :mad: :mad:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:38 AM
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6. So do i. n/t
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 11:02 AM
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8. To get the message Obama needs to fire most his advisors.
He needs to simply listen to the people who got him elected. If just did that he would be a successful leader. I have no idea what is motivating him or holding him back from doing what is right. He said he didn't care if he was going to be a one term president as long as he did what is right. But he keeps caving into the republican party by allowing the watering down of almost every piece of legislation without getting a single vote from republicans. WHY is he continuing to care about what republicans think? They are out to destroy him, and by giving in to them is not only pointless, it is dangerous to our nation. Republicans don't just want President Obama to fail. They want the economy and our country to fail. All they care about is making democrats look as bad as they can with absolutely zero concern if the country is destroyed or not. Surely President Obama MUST know this, so why is he acting like he doesn't?

I don't get it. President Obama could be a great president if he only listened to the people who worked their asses off to get him into the office he holds. And he needs to stop listening to the people who he has been getting advice from in the first year and half of his presidency. That would require forgetting about any perceived political ramifications of his actions and also purging all of those around him who have been holding him back from doing what is right for this country.

I am dumbfounded that President Obama isn't using the BP disaster to IMMEDIATELY announce a comprehensive energy plan, complete with details, and have it shoved through congress. He could paint any republican opposed to it as a pro-BPer and tell the people that our entire country will look like the defiled Gulf and our oil covered southern beaches if republicans were allowed to have their way. This is a golden opportunity but will President Obama seize the moment?
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 12:04 PM
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9. You are completely right.
I cannot imagine what (or who) is motivating him to do such idiotic things.

And it's breaking my heart.

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:26 AM
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3. Who would have accepted it in the first place?
Really, in America, it has no value. Since the two parties are umbrellas containing multiple competing factions, the real bipartisanship exists within the actual parties. Especially when such large majorities of the Congress are captured by the majority party. All they need to negotiate with are the factions within their own party, period. Unfortunately, when they reach across the isle, they are just empowering the most right-leaning, smallest faction in their own caucus.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:28 AM
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4. I believe a lot of Obama's 'reaching out across the aisle' is for show
That way he can say he 'tried' to get the right on board. When it is obvious that they wont budge though, he needs to put the hammer down and not incorporate a bunch of GOP 'ideas' into everything. If they don't want to play then fuck them, give them nothing, don't reward their ass-hattery.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:36 AM
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5. See the thing is by the time he gets to that our majorities will have shrunk or disappeared.
and that will indicate that the fix is in. I'm not easily convinced that Obama is stupid enough to overplay this and not be doing it totally willfully.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:46 AM
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7. Yep.
The "Golly, I tried but now it's too late, oh well, let's move forward etc" from Obama is wearing thin enough to see right through.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 12:52 PM
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10. There's one simple solution to this whole minority-rule situation
F'ing MAKE THEM FILIBUSTER! Make them show the whole country where they stand and who they stand with. Make them ashamed to show their faces to their constituents.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 12:53 PM
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11. K & R nt
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 12:57 PM
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12. How exactly do we pass these bills without at least one Republican?
We could forgo "bipartisanship" and just not pass anything (by hitting 59 on each cloture vote). But I don't think that would be very productive.
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