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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:31 AM
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JUDGE Grants Goodling Immunity In DOJ Probe
Goodling granted immunity in DOJ probe


By MATT APUZZO Associated Press Writer
© 2007 The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — A federal judge approved an immunity deal Friday allowing former Justice Department aide Monica Goodling to testify before Congress about the firing of eight federal prosecutors.

Goodling, who served as the department's White House liaison, has refused to discuss the firings without a guarantee that she will not be prosecuted. Congress agreed to the deal, Justice Department investigators reluctantly agreed not to not oppose it and U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan gave it final approval Friday.

"Monica Goodling may not refuse to testify," Hogan began his brief order, which said that Goodling could not be prosecuted for anything other than perjury in connection with her testimony.

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Goodling's lawyer has said that, with an immunity seal, she would cooperate and testify honestly.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/4796045.html
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:35 AM
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1. WTF?
Edited on Fri May-11-07 11:37 AM by KansDem
Goodling's lawyer has said that, with an immunity seal, she would cooperate and testify honestly.

So without immunity, she would be dishonest and uncooperative??? :rofl:

Remind me to use this argument the next time I'm called into court:
"Uh, Your Honor, I request that I not be held responsible or accountable for my actions. If you don't grant me this immunity, I'm going to lie and stonewall...OK?"

edited...
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:50 AM
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7. No, without the agreement, she would refuse to answer any questions and plead the Fifth.
Basically, she would use her Constitutional right against self-incrimination.

By granting her immunity, the Judge completely removed her ability to plead the Fifth, since, with immunity, there is no risk of self incrimination.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:57 AM
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8. I've really missed seeing those friendly, fuzzy faces
Edited on Fri May-11-07 11:59 AM by CatWoman
:hi:

Hope Quinn and Althea are doing ok :)
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:58 AM
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9. They're fine!
And :hi: right back at ya :)
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:58 AM
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10. Well, then perhaps her lawyer should have said that...
...instead of making it sound like, without immunity, his client would stonewall and lie.

I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me if you want immunity for your client to avoid self incrimination, then say "I want immunity for my client so she can avoid self incrimination."

But, I suppose, there's a greater intellect at play here than mine...
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:35 AM
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2. Dum,,,de-dum-dum, it will be a while before this takes off, but
it isn't good for Gonzo nad the boys in the Monkey House....:D

It shoould not be too long before we hear about "Bedtime for Gonzo"...:D
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:41 AM
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4. I still won't get my hope up....
To not be compelled to be honest under oath from the beginning makes me feel like the glass is just half-full if you measure the truth meter with a glass of water. These *bushies are clueless to the concept of integrity.:scared:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:08 PM
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11. I concur, they ahve no concept of integrity at all...
and for that, the RW praises them...:wtf:

Odd world we live in, I can't wait until reality crashes down on these people.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:42 AM
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5. Goodling can do an "North-Poindexter"
Take the blame completely, absolve the other crooks, and walk away a Neoconservative heroine.
By Jan. 2009 she could turn that status into a conservative talk radio show worth million$.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:11 PM
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12. I think she is going to squeal like a pig...
Edited on Fri May-11-07 12:11 PM by rasputin1952
There is no love lost in this group, and they have no concept of 'loyalty'...it's a one person takes all mentality, "I've got mine, screw everyone else"...:(
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:38 AM
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3. As soon as she commits perjury, they need to put the screws to her...
I have a hard time believing she will testify truthfully and fully about everything she knows.

It would probably be a good idea to make sure all her life insurance premiums are paid up to date if she has decided to comply with all of the terms of this grant of immunity.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:45 AM
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6. Wow, two in one day, kpete.
Two stories that got me firin' up the popcorn machine.

First the House vote on wire tapping, an now this.

Thanks.

Things are indeed looking up.

Time to sing like a bird, Monica.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:17 PM
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13. What happened in the House with Wiretapping?? I missed it! n/t
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-12-07 06:19 AM
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20. Here Ya Go
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:19 PM
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14. Am I correct in assuming that this woman never took the Fifth?
Or did I miss something?

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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:51 PM
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16. She said she would take the Fifth if she was compelled to testify.
Of course, now she can no longer do that...
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:54 PM
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17. They should NEVER allow people to do this.
Edited on Fri May-11-07 12:55 PM by BuyingThyme
If she doesn't want to answer questions, make her take the Fifth.

This gal is being handled like a fragile kitten.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:44 PM
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15. No more Fifth for you. Now SING, buzzard!
Edited on Fri May-11-07 12:46 PM by meldroc
I'm presuming she's getting use immunity, meaning that her testimony cannot be used by prosecutors as evidence against her for crimes, but she still can be prosecuted for those crimes if evidence is found elsewhere, that can't be linked to her testimony (no fruit from the poisoned tree...)

She's no longer allowed to plead the Fifth - she will be legally required to testify on her crimes and the crimes of those around her, and yes, if she gets caught committing perjury during her testimony, she can get prosecuted for that.


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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 01:11 PM
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18. '...and everything she testified to can be used against her'(finishing your sentence, LOL)
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 01:21 PM
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19. Ah, yes - if she gets busted for perjury, the immunity goes away. n/t
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-12-07 06:28 AM
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21. This time I want a Republican to STAIN
a dress worn by a Monica.. let's say that Gonzo PUKES on her Blue Dress from RAW FEAR that he'll go to Federal PRISON when She spills the beans..

Yeah, yeah.. that would be FINE :)
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DaveT Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-12-07 09:14 AM
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22. She might go at it like Gonzales
and say:

"Gee, I just don't remember why we wanted to fire those guys. I know it was for honorable reasons -- that much I'm sure about. Absolutely honorable. No doubt about that. But, specifically? The particular reasons why we fired them? Uh, I'm so sorry, but I just can't recall what the reason was."
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-12-07 11:18 AM
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23. I hope not. I'm sure the Dems got a formal proffer from Gooding's lawyer.
I think that's standard in any type of immunity agreement since Ollie North did his Potomac two-step in the '80s. The person getting the immunity has to proffer what he or she will say before being granted immunity.
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