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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:15 PM Original message |
I'll make a deal with all the Obama defenders on the DADT survey. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. An interesting proposition. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I doubt it too, but since I made the pledge I'll have to hold my breath until Monday. |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. actions tell the truth. the survey was an action. his words mean nothing without action to match nt |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. the new retort for this sort of comment from the "defenders" is |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. True! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
45. "Actions tell the truth"? What? So the invasion of Iraq was action, was it the truth? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. Think I missed something . . . what survey? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:45 PM Original message |
Here |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. the one Obama had nothing to do with creating. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Did any of you bother to take a look at the preliminary results of the survey? |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:53 PM Original message |
Here's a link... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. IMO the survey is being used as a ruse to keep DADT. It's an easy way out, |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Pentagon: Sorry, soldiers say no. Congress: Sorry, we tried. Obama: Yes, we can! |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. There you go again Mr. Negative!1 come on, be chirpy, stick |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I have that audio book. Listened to it twice! |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
88. my mother got sucked into that positive thinking crap. they told |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:09 AM Response to Reply #88 |
94. I think the worst My Mom was in was that Men/Mars Women/Venus thing. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:29 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. my mother went right down the woo checkoff list and she gets |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:40 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. I got swarmed at work when I called The Secret "crap". |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Female soldiers are being raped by heterosexuals and brass covers for rapists |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. I always expect the worst on LGBT issues. nt |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. +1 |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
70. I agree. It's a win-win for administration on this. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. Who is defending the survey? |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
53. Nobody has suggested that Obama wrote the survey... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
74. Who said he wrote it or was responsible for it? The question |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 06:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
104. Erroneous OP reframed: |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R |
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ablewon (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. Will Pres. Obama run in 2012? |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
15. Exactly. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
16. I haven't seen any DUer defend the survey |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Outrage is more fun than facts. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:04 AM Response to Reply #18 |
52. +1...nt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
79. Why was this survey needed? Do you ask for an opinion about |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
109. Ignorance is more comfortable than reality. |
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Born_A_Truman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Neither have I ... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. See post #17 |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. I really don't know that person |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. and I believe |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Uh, no. The offer as is stands. It's his military, so he should denounce the survey. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I said that he should denounce the survey |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Oh' ... Ok! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I'm appalled and shocked at this survey |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I'm getting touchy on this thing. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. I really appreciate your solid, direct, uncompromising opposition |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Oh yes, they have |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
55. Failure to rebut it is defense by omission. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. It was leaked yesterday afternoon |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:22 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. eek |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Do you have week-ends with your family? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. as a veteran it just rubs me the wrong way |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:32 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. The topic is response to a survey |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:51 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. There are a lot of soldiers who get no weekends off. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:51 AM Response to Reply #68 |
84. If you want free weekends you don't run for President of the U.S. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #84 |
114. If there's an emergency, he won't have this weekend off either |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I didn't mean immediately. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Rip him a new one |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
126. I can't believe you actually posted that |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
17. I didn't see it as a hatchet job. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Which is another bigoted question |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Yup, replace it with "Blacks," "Jews," "Catholics," etal |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. I think it would be good information to have for training and education. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. How will your career be affected? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. You know why that career question is in there, right? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. It Does Not Matter |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Asking someone if they're bigoted.... is bigoted? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Why do we need a $4 million survey of bigots? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. You're equating being "homosexulal/"lesbian" with "smelly pussies"? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:11 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. That was the implication in the survey |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:01 AM Response to Reply #49 |
91. You didn't answer the question she asked. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:38 AM Response to Reply #91 |
102. I don't think the decision made will be based on bigotry. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 08:17 AM Response to Reply #102 |
110. What does that even mean? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. This is the military. You can't just issue a directive and everything changes. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
117. What data or anecdotes are needed to correct a wrong that |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 07:02 AM Response to Reply #49 |
106. The poster wasn't equating that, the fucking SURVEY is |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #106 |
121. I agree it's a push poll. Probably not the same way you see it, though. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 07:00 AM Response to Reply #35 |
105. You do not base a group's civil rights on responses from a skewed survey! |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #105 |
123. Uhm, no. The military has been doing this for many years. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Ummm.... no...... they don't |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. My response was to this: |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. Of course you didn't. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
86. You don't think that is a bigoted question? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:58 AM Response to Reply #86 |
103. Asking a question about personal bigotry is not institutional bigotry per se. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
127. Of course you didn't. nt |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
29. And if he DOES renounce the survey by the end of the day on Monday? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I will eat crow on this issue, and this one alone. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I'll say, yet again, that he listens and corrects mistakes |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:36 AM Response to Reply #34 |
69. Good answer.... but I wasn't talking to you, ruggerson |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:59 AM Response to Reply #69 |
89. So why don't you answer the fucking OP? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:17 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. Was there a question posed in the OP? n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:42 AM Response to Reply #95 |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Are you going to acknowledge that, or are you going to run away like you thought I would? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Since you're so certain, why not offer to put your money where your mouth is? n/t |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
63. I will be astounded that he responded to some hostage deadline on a webforum. |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-10-10 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
50. I just read the survey; while I think it's basically BS - |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #51 |
62. My, you're certainly sensible tonight. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:55 AM Response to Reply #51 |
64. Wow - what an awful and callous reply. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. What's awful about it? I just thought he had something |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:09 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. i like arugula, actually. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:08 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. when the first words of a post are; "I'll make a deal with all the Obama defenders" |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:31 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. "I'll make a deal with you. If you do this, then I'll...um...and if you don't...I'll..." n/t |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:37 AM Response to Reply #72 |
81. ... |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:42 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. i love that site too, but i'm just giving you my opinion |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:53 AM Response to Reply #83 |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:05 AM Response to Reply #51 |
93. So you are opposed to the repeal of DADT! Okay! |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:02 AM Response to Reply #93 |
101. I really shouldn't be defending him, but |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #93 |
115. um, no, i am not opposed to appealing it. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Okay, that's good. I guess we'll find out what Obama thinks |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
66. don't hold your breath waiting |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. so you're saying obama is fucking with ppl on this, in reality wanting to screw over the GLBT |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:22 AM Response to Reply #75 |
96. well, I don't think he necessarily is actively seeking to screw over GLBT |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 07:07 AM Response to Reply #75 |
107. I didn't say this, Skittles did, but I'll answer for me: yes |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
67. K & R nt |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
76. What if I come up to you and do that anyways? n/t |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:30 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. well, i'll still run up to you and make fun of oasis, so at least you'll have something to do |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:35 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I'll make a deal with you. If you see the Oasis movie... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:41 AM Response to Reply #76 |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 02:57 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Backing away slowly... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Oh' Please! Like I'd want an Oasis fan in my house! |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:01 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Are those those two feuding brothers from Old America? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 03:58 AM Response to Reply #92 |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
108. recommend |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. And that is a two way street |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. That is false. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
120. I truly doubt Obama is going to be moved by this hostage demand technique. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-11-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
122. Thanks for the kick, *ignored* |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-12-10 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
128. Any updates on this, Touchdown? n/t |
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