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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 08:54 PM
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If Colton Harris-Moore was an 18-year-old black man, would he have 58,000 facebook "fans"??
Edited on Sun Jul-11-10 08:55 PM by scheming daemons
The kid is a thief. He's robbed hundreds of innocent people of their property. He was on the run from police for more than 2 years before being apprehended in the Bahamas yesterday.

His elusiveness has became so famous that he had over 58,000 facebook "fans" who celebrated his every exploit.


I'm asking.... would an 18-year-old BLACK thief who was on the run from the police for more than 2 years be treated like such a celebrity?


I suspect we all know the answer to that question.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 08:59 PM
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1. Quite possibly. There are folk heroes of every race.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:14 PM
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2. Never heard of him at all
nt
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:16 PM
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3. The "barefoot bandit" is the lead story on CNN and MSNBC all day today.... n/t
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:17 PM
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4. yeah, he'd probably have tons of fans.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the public to worship crooks.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 04:44 AM
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24. look how many fans OJ Simpson had
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 12:01 PM
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37. and Tookie...
or Cookie or whatever his name was. The scumbag gang banger who killed the clerk.... that one...
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:22 PM
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5. Sure, why not?
all you need for your "15 minutes" these days is the right gimmick

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:33 PM
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6. Would you care to explain the connection this story has to race?
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Fast Dude Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:35 PM
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7. Some posters here see racism in everything.
They aren't happy if they aren't fanning the flames of racism.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:01 PM
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9. Yeah, it sucks when people have different points of view than yours.
Bastards...
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Fast Dude Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 03:30 AM
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23. Congratulations
Edited on Mon Jul-12-10 03:31 AM by Fast Dude
You proved your own point, and mine too. All in one post. :toast:
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:07 PM
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11. Yes, I believe it's called "projection." nt
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:00 PM
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8. I see a criminal being turned into a celebrity by the media...

....and I know that this is because he's a baby-faced suburban white kid.


An inner-city black doing the EXACT same acts would be vilified (rightly so). But this kid gets a pass because he's a good-looking white kid.


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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:16 PM
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13. its not the media, its the kids/people on facebook.
the people have made this guy into a hero not the media. I hope the kid breaks out!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:24 PM
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14. You hope he breaks out? WTF is wrong with you?
Yes no one got killed as a result of his escapades, but considering he had a gun and was flying planes I can easily see how someone could get hurt.
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caboose Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:50 AM
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34. Me too...with a case of smallpox.
grr
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 09:48 AM
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32. OK then, what about if...
instead of a baby-faced suburban white kid, it was:


an ugly suburban white kid?

an ugly urban white kid, covered with tattoos and a known user of drugs?

an ugly old white guy?

an ugly white guy who had already done 5-to-10 in prison?


If any of those people would have been vilified, then it's NOT just the fact that he's white that gets him off the hook.





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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 01:12 PM
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40. go read up on his childhood
"suburban" should be replaced with "rural poor from a broken home".

he gets a "pass" because:

1. he hasn't hurt anyone
2. his survival skills are fucking remarkable - he lived OUTSIDE for 2 years & taught himself to FLY A PLANE.
3. he's a kid
4. the bandit, the folk anti-hero, becomes legendary IN EVERY COUNTRY ON THE PLANET. have you never watched a movie?

if a rural black kid pulled this same thing off, i'd make a FB page for him.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:41 PM
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17. If you don't know why,Stinky, then you have probably been watching
Fox nooz too much.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:44 AM
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30. Yeah, at the same time I read The Examiner
:eyes:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:02 PM
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10. It's amazing how anything on DU can be turned into a racial
issue.
Simply amazing.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 09:51 AM
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33. Exactly... I just asked above...
if an ugly urban white kid covered with tattoos and a known drug user would have been hailed as a "hero".


I'm guessing, probably not.

Which blows the whole "it's gotta be racism" thing out of the water.

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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:13 PM
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12. If he was as clever dairing and photo charming, YES!


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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:25 PM
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15. The kid is just one pixel of a massive human kaleidescope
be grateful for the entertainment he has given with no loss of life of limb. Its about the only story that isnt propaganda.

Corporations, Banks and governments steel pollute and kill every day, compared to them this kid is just a little mischievous!



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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:35 PM
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16. I really wonder how entertained you'd be if someone
broke into your home or stole your car.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:43 PM
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18. What do you call rappers?
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 02:56 AM
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22. My point exactly.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:44 AM
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29. So all rappers are criminals?
You make the OP's point.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:44 PM
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19. He didn't steal MY plane
Come to think of it, I don't even have a plane.

And anyway, if I had a plane, I'd have it insured to the hilt. Because I could afford it.

So I don't care.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 12:53 AM
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20. Also - would his mother
seek representation for future money-making deals that would feature his life of crime.
Why people are fans of his is beyond me. I guess they did not have their houses broken into.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 02:55 AM
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21. Fifty-Cent was a drug dealer and sold millions of records.
:shrug:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 05:03 AM
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25. Have you never heard of gangster rap? nt
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:48 AM
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31. You think most of that is real? n/t
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 12:48 PM
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39. It was back in the day (late 80's early 90's)
Edited on Mon Jul-12-10 01:05 PM by snooper2
But now you have all these wanna be gangster bitches singing about ho's and cars and bling and money, studio gangsters.

I blame a lot of it on the likes of crappy rappers like "lil Wayne" and "Puffy"

Example 1. his song "Got Money"

I was bouncing through the club she love the way I ditty bop
I see her boyfriend hating like a city cop
Now I ain't never been a chicken but my fitted cocked
Said I ain't never been a chicken but my semi cocked
Now where ya bar at?...I'm trying run it out
And we so bout it bout it, now what are you bout?
DJ showed them love, he said my name when the music stop
Young money Lil Wayne, then the music drop
I make it snow, I make it flurry
I make it all back tomorrow don't worry
Yeah Young Wayne on then hoes
AKA Mr. Make it rain on them hoes
(Young money)



Compared with say, Eazy E, 2Pac, Bone Thugs N Harmony or Notorious B.I.G. who lived the shit...

Notorious B.I.G. ft. Bone Thugs N Harmony - Notorious Thugz --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p18uNMfwp34


Bizzy:
Bone and Biggie, Biggie.
It's Bone and Biggie, Biggie . . .
Krayzie:
We gonna rock the party .
Better run and tell everybody .
alternating with Layzie:
Ride. Let's ride. Let's ride. Let's ride. Come on and . . .
Bizzy:
Get high, get high, get high . . .
This is a lake of fire, but I can't even hold on.

Krayzie:
Notorious thugs.
Layzie:
Nothin' but them thugstas. Nothin' but them thugstas .

Notorius B.I.G.:
Armed and dangerous
ain't too many can bang with us.
Straight up weed,
No angel dust.
Label us
notorious
thug-ass niggas that love to bust.
It's strange to us,
y'all niggas be scramblin', gamblin'
up in restaurants with mandolins and violins.
We just sittin' here tryin' to win,
try not to sin, high off weed and lots of gin.
So much smoke, need oxygen, steadily countin' them Benjamins.
Nigga, you'd should, too,
if you knew what this game would do to you.
Been in this shit since ninety-two.
Look at all the bullshit I've been through:
so-called beef with you-know-who,
fucked a few female stars or two.
Then a blue light,
niggas move like Mike,
shit,
not to be fucked with.
Muthafucka, better duck quick,
'cause me and my dogs love to buck shit.
Fuck the luck, shit, strictly aim, no aspirations to quit the game.
Spit your game, talk your shit, grab your gat, call your click, squeeze your clip, hit the right one.
Pass that weed, I gotsta light one. All them niggas, I gotsta fight one. All them hoes, I gotsta like one.
Our situation is a tight one.
What you wanna do: fight or run?
Seems to me that you'll take B,
Bone and B.I.G., nigga, die slowly.
I'm a tell you like a nigga told me,
cash rules everything 'round me.
Shit, lyrically, niggas can't see me.
Fuck it. Buy the coke, cook the coke, cut it.
Know the bitch, before you caught yourself lovin' it.
Nigga, roll the Benz, fuckin' in it.
Doesn't it seem odd to you?
B.I.G. come through with mobs and crews.
Goodfellas down for the Mo Thug crew.
Who's the killa: me or you?

Bizzy:
Seven A.M. woke in the morning, with Henney, caffiene and green and nicotine.
No dough, so I pop a couple'a foes. Little RIPsta, nigga, Mr. Clean make it
gleam, deep in my temple, and I gotta get sentimentally steamed with my
instrumelody and heated especially for your team and the forty-five indeed will
beam in between the seams, destroy your dreams. You willing to die? We'll see
how many flee when I 'cause the scene. We mean mug, Mo Thug, trained to be
perfect disciples when it's survival time, die by double-edged sword, triple
six rivals spittin' fire, that's the real truth, bitch, breakin' down for
lives, my Messiah, better get ready for Armageddon, shits expired, it's wild.
Bless the child, the one that became a man, but them positions' already there,
all that I had to do was stand. Test me now, contend, never no surrender, no
pretend, pick up my gun in my hand, one of my trusty friend, friends. Hey, open
and let 'em see if we're real. We all suited, beg my pardon to Martin, Baby we ain't marchin we shootin
And daily recruitin there's a front row
Everyday in the ghetto
We start em off little we give em a bottle
and a pen and a pad to hit the lead now kick it

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/notorious-thugs-lyrics-bone-thugs-n-harmony/e785fe51d8626a83482568c700138979

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:11 AM
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26. Who?
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:43 AM
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27. never heard of him n/t
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:43 AM
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28. Who? n/t
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caboose Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:55 AM
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35. With a hyphenated name? Probably!
:rofl:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:02 AM
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36. PS...and like someone else upthread pointed out...
It was probably all young kids who were "fans".


IMO, most kids under the age of 25 are really kind of stupid.

I know I was.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 12:19 PM
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38. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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