Seriously, how brilliant was Rachel M. yesterday

[Surya Gayatri]

during her appearance on the MTP panel, while jousting with that Right Wing tool and pasty-looking weasel, Gillespie. God, how I adore that woman. May her journalistic career go from strength to strength! :loveya: Rachel.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/#38189860

[Mira]

1. ...

:thumbsup: Recommended and seconded

[Dr Morbius]

2. Thank you for this link. I was relatively busy yesterday and missed her.

But I was hoping to find time today to visit msnbc.com and track down the video. Now I don't even have to do that, thanks to you!

Rachel is so good at what she does I get a thrill of anticipation just thinking about this. I'm a big fan.

[Surya Gayatri]

4. You are more than welcome, good sir !

She gives me thrills "down my leg" also. Sometimes I'm slacked jawed at her sheer, shining brilliance ! SG

[Bandit]

3. She missed several great opportunities IMO

Gilespie said Obama had doubled the National debt from where Bush* left it..That was an out an out LIE. They deliberately confuse deficit with debt and Rachel should have caught that and corrected him..IMO

[Surya Gayatri]

6. She did what she could in that testosterone charged

environment--she can't interrupt every 10 seconds. Don't worry, she'll get the bastard next time she goes head to head with him, or she'll drive the point home in another context. Never "misunderestimate" Rachel's razor sharp mind!!! SG

[BootinUp]

12. As I recall she did refute it

said that Bush left Obama with 1.3 Trillion $ deficit.

[Winterblues]

14. I also heard Gilespie say National Debt and not Deficit

I understand how easy it is for the average American to be confused over the two terms although they are quite different things. Obama did indeed double the Deficit from Bush*'s average Deficit, however Bush* almost Doubled the National debt from when Clinton was President and Obama has only added a little over a trillion dollars to it..He certainly has not even come close to doubling the National Debt..If we were to use the exact same formula for Bush*'s first two years in office, where he took a 275 billion dollar Surplus and turned it into a eight hundred billion deficit, it is far more than doubling. It is in fact creating a deficit when there was none and then upping that (record) deficit every single year.. EVERY Single Year...

[BootinUp]

15. Obama changed the way the deficit is calculated

to include things the Bushies left off the books. He did not double the deficit. Are you agreeing with some repuke talking point? Please don't do that, lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget
The total deficit for fiscal year 2009 was $1.42 trillion, a $960 billion increase from the 2008 deficit.

The changes: account for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (”overseas military contingencies”) in the budget rather than through the use of “emergency” supplemental spending bills, assume the Alternative Minimum Tax will be indexed for inflation, account for the full costs of Medicare reimbursements, and anticipate the inevitable expenditures for natural disaster relief. <2>

The deficit is forecast to decline to $1.17 trillion in 2010 and $533 billion by 2013.<3>

The 2009 deficit includes the cost of the Troubled Asset Relief Program ($154 billion in 2009),<4> the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 ($202 billion in 2009, $353 billion in 2010, and $232 billion in 2011 forward<5>), and the 2009 Omnibus spending bill ($410 billion)—and changes due to President Obama's policy proposals.

The 2009 budget deficit would represent 12.3% of gross domestic product,<6> the largest share since World War II.<7>

[Winterblues]

17. During the eight years Bush* was in office the Deficit averaged $450 billion dollars

So yes Obama doubled the (average) Bush* deficit. However I notice you ignored the Debt which I thought was what we were talking about. Gilespie said Obama doubled the National Debt. Rachel did not catch it nor comment upon it..

[BootinUp]

19. Lets talk about the deficit

because I can't get over your talking point. I guess its important for you distinguish that Obama's current deficit is double Bush's average, but not important to say that Bush did that before he left? lol.

[Winterblues]

23. Let's talk about what the OP was about, Rachel Maddow

Ed Gilespie stated Obama has doubled the National Debt. NO ONE including Rachel contradicted him. The Deficit was completely out of control under Bush*. Every year was a record deficit. Starting off under the Obama Administration the current Deficit puts all those record deficits under Bush* to shame. I don't really think you want to go down this road. Our current Deficit and Debt have never been as high... EVER....I do recognize the purposes of creating such a huge deficit is completely different from Bush* and the Republicans but that does not make it insignificant..

[BootinUp]

25. Sorry, but I think this is important

The 2008-2009 deficit was 1.3 trillion dollars and Obama had nothing to do with it. Yes, I'll go down the road of correcting you on that. And it is relevant to the OP because Maddow pointed out the same thing. I don't care what Gillespie that liar says about the National Debt right now. I want you to tell me why you are using this average deficit number for Bush, where did you get it, and does it include war spending and other adjustments to calculation that Obama has begun to use?

[Surya Gayatri]

28. Excellent point and well taken, Winter...

You should post this in a separate thread so we can all use this argument against the debt/deficit hypocrites. SG

[lunatica]

5. Did she also have one arm tied behind her back?

Because I think she could be bound completely and blindfolded and still have the edge over anybody she debates. Or any six or seven at the same time. And without even breaking a sweat.

[Surya Gayatri]

7. Not exactly, but she was battling four

males spewing talking points-all at the same time, including that piss-poor excuse for a Dem, Harold Ford, who was there supposedly to level the playing field against the right-wing contingent.
Did you notice how incredibly focused and concentrated she is when following the faux-arguments of the others. Laser beam eyes!! SG

[lunatica]

8. Her body language is telling too

You might have noticed that she's always holding a pen and paper. She'll quickly write something down when others are talking and it's when she circles something on the paper you know she's just about to nail someone (if you call talking facts nailing somebody). And she always does.

[Surya Gayatri]

9. Yep, never misses...

You can tell she was trained to debate and defend her ideas in an intellectually competitive, academic environment. I would have loved to attend her defense of her doctoral thesis. SG

[tularetom]

10. I'm amazed they keep inviting her back

She never fails to make Dances-With-Rove Gregory look like a total fool. As well as the handpicked panel of morans.

They can't marginalize her. And she appears to be amazingly self confident with no trace of ego or insecurity so they can't attack her. The more she's on the more foolish she makes the liberal media appear.

[Surya Gayatri]

11. Yeah, tularetom, I think you've nailed

her main, over-riding strength--her total lack of ego investment. It makes her almost unassailable and assault-proof. They can't lay a hand on her. Not to mention the enjoyment and pleasure she obviously takes in expressing her ideas and pinning the others to the wall with her truth-telling. SG

[Pisces]

16. They keep inviting her back because she is rating gold. People watch when Maddow is on.

She should be the host of Meet the Press. Gregory is an embarrassment. Rachel also schooled that idiot Ford. She is the best person on television right now hands down.

[mikelgb]

13. She did great considering she was up against 4 conservatives

Brooks, Gellespie, Ford and Gregory

[Gin]

20. she makes so much sense even the guys can't argue with her

hope sarah p goes on her show...I would pay to see that

[Surya Gayatri]

26. How true, Gin...

It's hilarious to watch those right-wing mouthpieces hunkered down, squirming, wishing they could find some flaw in her exposé. Then you literally see their faces fall when they realize they have absolutely NO comeback. God, the match up of the new millennium--Maddow vs. Palin. I'd pay to see that, for sure. SG

[Vinca]

18. The woman's got more brains in her pinkie finger than the entire rest of the panel combined.

[AtomicKitten]

21. Rachel Maddow should be the host of MTP. She's smarter than all of them. nt

[Surya Gayatri]

29. Maybe if Rachel continues to gain exposure and

impress the viewing public, MSNBC will finally wake up to what a treasure they've got and give her her due. SG

[AtomicKitten]

30. MTP's ratings soar when she's a guest. Hopefully MNSBC will catch on. nt

[yowzayowzayowza]

22. Rachel and Roundtable at 25 min in. n/t

[Winterblues]

24. When Ford said you could not raise taxes during a recession

Why didn't someone (Rachel) mention to him that Clinton did that very thing and America went on to experience the "Greatest Economic Expansion in History"

[Surya Gayatri]

27. The codswallop flies so fast

and furiously that she can't scoop it all up and throw it back in their faces. She'd be interrupting every 10 seconds or so!! SG