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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:53 PM
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Jesu! I'm watching a program on the History Channel on Nazi America
and it is really interesting. It is the history of the establishment and history of the Nazi movement in the US from its inception until now. It sounds so familiar--the methods and precepts/conditions under which it was built are very similar to those used by the Teabaggers. This program is worth watching.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:57 PM
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1. The Nazis were able to get a foothold in German parlimant, sounds like what some are willin to allow
...today by not voting
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:57 PM
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2. what`s really scary is the amount of people who were in the movement.
of course if you throw in the kkk.....
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:03 PM
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4. Those people didn't all just disappear...
they taught their children. The hatred was given soft earth to grow in.


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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:00 PM
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3. Now, George Lincoln Rockwell.....
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 02:40 PM by Behind the Aegis
His ideas live on in both sides now.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:20 PM
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14. The Wall St. bankers and industrialists funded the rise of the Nazis - we often hear nada about
that. The focus is usually on a few fringe characters who sported swastikas and silly mustaches, not the Americans in expensive 3-piece suits who knowingly pumped billions into the Nazi war machine, and continued to do so after Pearl Harbor, and then joined forces with the Fascists on the other side after the war to wage yet another war.

The Cold War excused practically anything and everything they did.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:28 PM
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16. And they still do fund their war on Jews.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:33 PM
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17. Family tradition.
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 04:34 PM by leveymg
But to be entirely accurate, they do embrace Israeli and American Jews of the Right (extreme Right) persuasion. Today, I'd say the sides are more ideological and class driven than racial or religious. What do you think?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:06 PM
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20. I think it is as it has always been: money.
It may appear the support Israel and right-wing Jews, but they don't. They support their control over certain markets and products. They care as much for Jews as the ME Arabs care for Palestinians, meaning they don't give a shit about them and use them for their political chess games. The left use us for our clout and socialist tendencies, but they too would abandon us if it suit their needs or fed their cause.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:04 PM
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5. suprised they took a break from Hitler
:)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:06 PM
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6. I hope you are watching this.
Much of this occurred before I was born or when I was a very small child. It is interesting to see this stinking onion peeled back. There are so many layers under what is going on now. The Teabaggers are children of the Bunde.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:18 PM
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7. Given how the Hearst-story channel always whitewashes so-called "History" on their programming
I'm sure they completely left out the parts about The Bush Crime Family financing Hitler, and attempting to overthrow FDR in a military coup.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:29 PM
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8. IMO it never went away in this country, it was just underground for awhile and a
number of RW celebrities are intent on bringing it all about. It's disgusting and dangerous. Glad you are watching this! Many have said this is like 1939 Germany in this country and I agree. These people are dangerous and I do hope most Americans are not asleep at the wheel as to what's going on... We go into other countries and we have similar or worse brewing in this country. It's the same old sh** all over again.



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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:35 PM
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9. It wasn't that long ago
that we'd get guffawed at for suggesting that neo-nazis and klan are active around here (northern Colorado). Recently, a group of neo-nazis got their name on a state highway sign as the group responsible for litter patrol in that area; shocked quite a few people into a bit of unpleasant reality.


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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:38 PM
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10. Very familiar with that series.
Excellent information, and sobering stuff.


If you're interested in today's successors to the Klan, Morris Dee's Southern Poverty Law Center has very concise information available:

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 03:23 PM
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11. It's a very good account of how these people have insinuated themselves
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 03:25 PM by Skidmore
into our institutions so they can affect legislation and make it possible for politicians who are sympathetic to say and do what they want without being directly associated with them. Very sobering indeed. The rhetoric and philosophy touted by the Teabaggers and some of the more radical legislators we hear is not a whit different from the hardcore Neonazi or white supremisist groups. The conflation of race and Christianity really stands out.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 03:46 PM
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12. Exactly.
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 03:47 PM by Dogtown
Although most of the Tea Baggers we see are doughy and ludicrous, I bet in younger days some belonged to other, equally sinister organizations.


Along with Klan associations, I suspect there are strong links to the "Sovereign" community as well as any number of "patriot militia".

It's interesting that although the Johnson DOJ vigorously prosecuted local law enforcement that were Klan-associated, today the "Oath Keepers" have infiltrated many police agencies as well as the military.

The back-lash of electing a black President will be evident for decades to come.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 03:57 PM
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13. I saw that program on History Channel a few months ago
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 03:59 PM by RamboLiberal
And you are right - it is worthwhile watching. We forget or never have learned this history.

I just started reading this week Freedom Summer about the 1964 volunteers efforts in Mississippi to break through the barriers that kept blacks from being allowed to vote and segregated.

Frightening.

You can see how the RW organizations that foster the tea partiers are cousins to the Citizen's Council and Sovereignty Commission.

Also how the news and even entertainment was censored because of who owned the newspapers, radio & TV stations.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:21 PM
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15. I remember a short video about the use of Propaganda in pre-WW2 Germany
It was at the Holocaust Museum in DC.

What amazed me was how the same exact tactics are used today by right-wing screeds like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck and anyone at Faux News.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:35 PM
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18. I noticed they avoided all mention of the Bush Family's cozy dealings with Nazi government.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 05:53 AM
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22. I'm sure they didn't mention the Dulles Bros and Sullivan &Cromwell, or Morgan Bank, either.
How about Standard Oil? Dupont (Zyklon B) Chemicals, and General Motors. Then there was the crew at Harriman Brown Bros. Funny how the only big shot that ever gets mentioned is Henry Ford, Sr., and that would never have become public knowledge if he hadn't republished "The Elders of Zion" on the from page of the Dearborn Independent newspaper and openly funded America First.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 05:01 PM
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19. After you finish the History Channel production, there is some reading which might interest you
Blood and Politics: The History of the White Nationalist Movement from the Margins to the Mainstream by Leonard Zeskind

http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Politics-Nationalist-Movement-Mainstream/dp/0374109036/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279317082&sr=1-1#_
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 12:59 AM
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21. NAZIs? DU's done a job on the so-and-sos...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 06:02 AM
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23. I was waiting for your lovely posts with links


“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” ( the real rulers in the shadows use the masses and the uninformed)


Sinclair Lewis



Thanks buddy ...... keep them informed
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 06:26 AM
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24. BTW George Lincoln Rockwell's house and headquarters
was a place I had to walk by every school day. growing up... until he got shot.

He was such a minor figure that distracted the public from the real hidden Nazis in positions of power
such as those described in all your posts.
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