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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:55 PM
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Most Americans Believe Obama Created TARP???
This is disgusting. The American people have been so inundated with the tea-baggers' garbage the last 16+ months they don't even remember that TARP was created by George W. Bush in October 2008 with every Republican congressional leader voting IN FAVOR of its creation (including Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell).

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/109287-poll-americans-think-obama-started-bailouts

How pathetic is that! :puke:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:56 PM
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1. Never misunderestimate Americans' capacity for boundless stupidity.....




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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:59 PM
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2. +1000
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:02 PM
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6. Communication
Running the American people down is not going to endear them to Democrats. It's obvious that we need to communicate with them better.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:01 PM
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3. They can't read a calender.
Really. I had a Reich Winger blame Clinton for Ruby Ridge. They blamed Bill Clinton for nuclear weapon designs stolen from a federal lab before 1984.

It's really simple: if the bad news about something comes out while a Democrat is in office, then it's the Democrats fault, no matter when the event actually happened.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:03 PM
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7. Yep
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:09 PM
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10. And on 12 Sept 2001 they all parrotted, "aren't you glad Gore didn't win now?"

The average American having apparently forgotten that Dick and Dumber repeatedly mocked Gore during the 2000 election for Gore's claim that Islamic terrorism was the #1 national security threat the US was facing at that time.


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:01 PM
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4. And that's by design. I refuse to believe that the Bush gang did not know
about the impending financial collapse.. It's just that their timing was off by a few months.. They probably thought it would all collapse in late Jan or early Feb, and then the whole world would claim it was a "response to a black president".

The fact that they HAD to include the Obama team in the planning phase of the bailout, forced Obama's team to be out front in the media, to soothe the public into believing that they would be able to handle it..

Once Bush scooted out of town, the media forgot all about him:(
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:07 PM
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8. a good economics
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 02:09 PM by handmade34
course will be very clear about the use of financial manipulation to determine political outcomes... make no mistake, there was much deliberation by the Bush Administration to create a scenerio...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:09 PM
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11. i think the timing is just as they planned. they timed out the wars too.
they knew it was all collapsing around them, so did the republican party, that's why we got mccain and palin....sacrificial lambs so to speak
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:01 PM
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5. They'd think that if they logged in here, too.... n/t
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:08 PM
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9. Problem is that our side is too busy
lobbing tomatoes at him to speak up on these issues.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:10 PM
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12. He had no responsibility
For spending the first round of funds but he voted for it and now owns the second half.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:10 PM
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13. This is really depressing. Dems were as bad/worse than the Repubs
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 02:13 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
Check it out:

Notably, just 36% of Republicans, 35% of independents and 34% of Democrats know that the government bailout of banks and financial institutions was signed into law by former President Bush. Democrats (46%) are just as likely as Republicans (50%) or independents (44%) to incorrectly say the legislation was enacted after Obama became president.


That's a major let down.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:12 PM
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15. Lack of message control from the DNC, it was a HUGE mistake letting Dean go
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:17 PM
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17. I agree with you in regards to Dean.
We've been pretty much losing control of the message ever since.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:10 PM
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14. Thx Tim Kaine, allowing the GOP and MSM to conflait TARP and stimulus was sloppy
...the Obama admin doesn't get a free pass on this but they had a country to run...the onus belongs on the DNC party leaders
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:16 PM
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16. You can find people here...
...who should know better, conflating them to this day for their own purposes.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:17 PM
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18. Most Americans believe the last thing they heard from almost
anywhere. Historical knowledge is not much prized in this country. That's why Fock Snews is so influential.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:38 PM
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20. That's a sad reality
With cable news, and even network and printed media, giving so much press time to Teabaggers, and others spouting untruths, it's no wonder Americans are being brainwashed into believing misinformation.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:45 PM
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21. It's just easier. Even here on DU, I'm amazed at the misinformation
some people have regarding all sorts of important issues. Take the BP oil disaster. Some of the things I see written here are just plain shocking in their incorrectness.

The real information is out there, but many people have their pet website and believe everything that's aid there.

We aren't very good at finding the truth about much of anything, it seems. It's hard work. Plus, it doesn't always meet our preconceived ideas. So, we find some site that shares those ideas and repeat whatever that site tells us.

It's embarrassing. It truly is.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 03:32 PM
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22. It is work to find out what's truth rather than fiction
Sometimes the truth doesn't fit a person's emotional viewpoint and which makes it's too easy to choose the fiction.

The OP's poll is an excellent example. Democrats were equally ignorant on what was true and what was fiction. We're being misled and we should know better then to let that happen. It would appear even Democrats are not immune when it comes to being manipulated.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:24 PM
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19. Not surprising
I'd bet a majority of DU'ers believe it, too. After all, it makes That One look bad, so it's got to be true.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 03:36 PM
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23. because the Republicans lie nonstop and and the media gave up correcting them years ago
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 03:39 PM
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24. A few liberal online pundits push that belief too.
In their attempt to paint Obama as an evil corporatist who's to blame for everything.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 03:42 PM
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25. Of course they do...
...it's the result of catapulting the propaganda, which Republican and Fox News do all day, every day. They simply use the terms "bailout" and "Obama" in the same sentence. Since Obama was, indeed, responsible for the part of the bailout that was added during his watch, people simply mash it together in their minds and forget GWB's role.

Unfortunately we are not as good at catapulting the propaganda. Well, that, and our side tends to have scruples, a big disadvantage in the propaganda wars.

What we really need to do is somehow catapult the truth more forcefully than they catapult the propaganda.
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