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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:38 PM
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A sticky story
and a little weird. I'm not sure I buy the police officers story. It seems the police officer went into the woods looking for his lost handcuffs. An unarmed man masterbating(if you don't count the penis in his hand) approached the police officer and threatened him. "Stop. or I'll shoot!" I made that part up.

"The officer made repeated commands to Mr. Gaymon to stop and submit. Mr. Gaymon ignored those commands, did not raise his arms or make his hands visible and repeatedly threatened to kill the officer," Mr. Laurino said. "Mr. Gaymon then lunged at and attempted to disarm the officer while reaching into his own pocket."

We know where one hand was. Anyway the officer shot and killed a man who was only armed with a penis.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703724104575380092364318952.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:40 PM
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1. That thing could have gone off at any moment!
Seriously... yuk.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:45 PM
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2. he was
cocked and locked
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:47 PM
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3. ..."looking for his lost handcuffs"? How did he happen to lose his handcuffs in the woods? nt
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:17 AM
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9. Likely story...unless...
The officer in question had lost the 'cuffs in a previous "foray into the woods"...so to speak...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:51 AM
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11. You almost can't help but think that. nt
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:58 AM
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12. hey! Easier to arrest then to come out publicaly that one is gay?
strange story all the way 'round.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:47 PM
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4. Is that a subscription only site?
I couldn't see the article.

Maybe I'm daft.

Anyhoo, we'll never know the truth if there were only two men and one's now dead.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 11:50 PM
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5. it's not subscription
I saw it on google news.
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:02 AM
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6. So he lunged at the officer and was attempting to disarm him

(by reaching into the officer's pocket? Cause it says he didn't have his gun out yet..) while simultaneously reaching into his own pocket...the officer had just arrested another man after complaints of public sex.

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"The officer made repeated commands to Mr. Gaymon to stop and submit. Mr. Gaymon ignored those commands, did not raise his arms or make his hands visible and repeatedly threatened to kill the officer," Mr. Laurino said. "Mr. Gaymon then lunged at and attempted to disarm the officer while reaching into his own pocket."

It was then that the officer pulled out his weapon and shot Mr. Gaymon in the abdomen, prosecutors said. Mr. Gaymon, a married father of four, died a short time later at University Hospital. He was in Newark to attend his 30-year class reunion at Montclair High School, his family and prosecutors said."

...

I did a google search on "georgia man shot undercover handcuffs" and got the story, but when I try to post the link and access it from here, or paste it in a browser window, I get the "subscription" notice.
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I have been on calls where a person tried to hurt a police officer, and depending on the size difference that officer could be in fear of his/her life. There are a lot of questions unanswered by the story, however...
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:12 AM
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7. That's so weird.
I get this when I click your link:

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:15 AM
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8. Bunch of articles..damn, he had 4 kids.
OP article
An unarmed Georgia man, who was shot and killed by a undercover officer in Newark last week, allegedly assaulted and threatened to kill the detective after he was found engaging in a sex act in a public, authorities said Tuesday.

The allegation was made as acting Essex County Prosecutor Robert D. Laurino detailed the statement given by the detective who shot DeFarra Gaymon, who was a credit-union chief executive...to continue subscribe


http://www.njherald.com/story/news/j0149-BC-NJ-SuspectShot-3rdLd-Writethru-07-20-0537
A Georgia man may have approached an undercover officer seeking sex in a Newark park before the officer fatally shot him in a struggle, county authorities said Tuesday. (clip)

The account of the actions that led to the chase was provided by the 29-year-old officer who, along with a fellow officer, was investigating reports of public sex in Newark's Branch Brook Park. Laurino said the detective told investigators there were no other witnesses since his partner was in their car with the other suspect.

According to the officer, he and his partner had already arrested one suspect at about 6 p.m. when the officer realized he had dropped a pair of handcuffs in a wooded area. He located the handcuffs, and while leaning over to pick them up, was approached by Gaymon who was "engaged in a sex act at the time," according to Laurino.

When asked whether Gaymon may have assumed the officer was seeking sex, Laurino said: "There was a confrontation, and words were exchanged. We're not going to get into the exact words that were exchanged, but it would lead one to believe that."


http://www.thesunnews.com/2010/07/21/1595854/banker-killed-in-nj-police-shooting.html
Banker killed in N.J. police shooting to be buried in S.C.

The CEO of an Atlanta credit union who was shot and killed by a police detective in Newark, N.J., last week will be buried in Columbia on Saturday.

DeFarra "Dean" Gaymon, 48, a Benedict College alumnus and former credit union vice president in Columbia, was killed in a park in New Jersey during a confrontation with an undercover police officer, according to the Essex County Prosecutor's Office in Newark.

His death has left his parents, who live in Columbia, and the rest of his family stunned and grappling with unanswered questions. "This is Dean, a man that was always reaching out to help, never of violence, never engaging in anything to downgrade the community, always to uplift it," said his father, the Rev. George Gaymon, pastor of New Revelations Baptist Church in Blythewood.
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In addition to his father and mother, Mattie, he leaves behind his wife, Mellanie, and children, Devin, 15, Jade, 12, Jillian, 10, and Dale, 8.


http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=7565298
According to the officer, he made an arrest in an unrelated case when he realized he has loss a pair of handcuffs during that arrest. After the suspect in that earlier case was secured, the officer told his partner he was going back into the woods, retracing his steps in an effort to find the missing handcuffs. While bending down to retrieve the handcuffs, the plainclothes officer was approached by Mr. Gaymon who was engaged in a sex act at the time.

The officer pulled out his badge, identified himself as a police officer and informed Mr. Gaymon he was under arrest. Mr. Gaymon appeared to panic, assaulted the police officer and fled. A foot chase ensued. The officer made repeated commands to Mr. Gaymon to stop and submit. Mr. Gaymon ignored those commands, did not raise his arms or make his hands visible and repeatedly threatened to kill the officer. Mr. Gaymon then lunged at and attempted to disarm the officer while reaching into his own pocket. Fearing for his life, the officer discharged his service weapon, striking Mr. Gaymon once.

Gaymon, who was unarmed, was shot once in the stomach and died. The 29-year- old detective who fired the shot was so distraught, he had to be sedated and was not capable of providing a statement for three days. The Gaymon family released a statement: "We know that the police
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:18 AM
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10. "there have been 9 police shootings in Essex County in the first seven months of this year, 6 fatal"
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=147165&catid=40
Family Wants Federal Probe Into CEO's Death

In reviewing the police officer's statement summarized today by the Essex County Prosecutor, we are without any doubt that the statement is a blatant lie concocted after four days of unexplained silence.

We note the following:

1. Dean Gaymon was a nonviolent, nonaggressive and nonthreatening person his entire life. It was his very nature to avoid confrontation. Any one of the hundreds of family members and friends who knew Dean will confirm that it would have been completely and totally against his nature to "tussle" with a police officer, to resist authority, to assault a police officer (or anyone else for that matter) or to attempt to disarm an armed police officer. Words such as "I am going to kill you", would not be uttered from him. This is just not who Dean was.

2. We compare Dean's lifelong gentle nature with the fact that there have been nine police shootings in Essex County in the first seven months of this year, six of which have been fatal. We have no doubt in our mind that the problem which led to this killing was not Dean Gaymon, but instead a local community where law enforcement officers are shooting and killing individuals at an alarming rate.

3. Comments of the Essex County prosecutor's spokeswoman quoted in the Atlanta Journal and Constitution today intensify our family's outrage. She stated that this case would be presented to the grand jury "just like all the others", and that "typically" the decision on whether charges will result from a police shooting rests with the grand jury....(more@link)
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