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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:58 PM
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'Static kill' could begin within 48 hours... pending fed approval..
From CNN..

New Orleans, Louisiana (CNN) -- BP could try an operation by this weekend to permanently seal its breached Gulf of Mexico oil well -- but only if federal officials approve the plan and BP gets a crucial casing in place, the government's point man on the oil spill said Wednesday. The tactic, called a "static kill," involves pumping mud into the well to force oil back into the reservoir below.

Retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, who's leading the federal response to the spill, told reporters time is of the essence because of the potential for severe weather coming from the Caribbean. BP is not attempting to get the casing in place until they determine what the weather may do, he said. Officials from BP have said the "static kill" option could succeed where similar attempts have failed because pressure in the well is lower than expected.

Geologist Arthur Berman said on CNN's "American Morning" Tuesday that the relative simplicity of a static kill makes it an attractive option for BP. "I think the reason that they're considering it is because they've yet to intercept the well bore," Berman said. "They're very close, a few feet away with the relief well, as everyone knows. But to actually intersect the 7-inch pipe does involve a bit of technology and accuracy, whereas if they do the static kill through the existing well bore at the top, there's less uncertainty about their ability to actually get the mud into the pipe."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/21/gulf.oil.disaster/index.html?video=true&hpt=T2

I think this is going to happen.. seems like this is becoming the preferred next strategy now especially with a hurricane looming.

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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:00 PM
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1. They're not going to measure the flow rate. I knew it! FUCK! BP will NEVER
pay a fine for a single barrel!

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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:03 PM
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2. Yep. looks that way.. I think feds agree its best to just plug this sucker ASAP..
before something else bad happens. I think BP is going to penalized and fine plenty even if they dont have a firm flow rate.
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MikeNY Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:43 PM
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21. Thats why they have a limited liability $20B escrow account
To limit claim damages and lawsuits. How could you expect any less from a company that is majority owned by Goldman Sachs, whose former executives in government almost definitely convinced this administration to bail out every major financial institution in this country with tax payer money? BP fully intends to walk away from this smelling like a rose, and the British Prime Minister's visit here, and his comments following his meeting with the President, seem to confirm that. But it's not like this company also successfully lobbied to get any Libyan terrorists freed or anything...

Remember, prior to the worst ecological disaster in US history, BP had been bombarding all of North America with commercials assuring us all of how energy independent and green they were. I am sure the country is in good hands.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:05 PM
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3. I'm a bit baffled
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 03:05 PM by HughMoran
Are you more concerned that they will use an estimate versus an actual measured flow value versus plugging the well so no more oil can flow from it?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:11 PM
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4. Are you serious? After all the posting about this in the ROV threads?
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 03:12 PM by Subdivisions
All they have to do to measure the flow rate is take the cap off and move a fucking riser pipe into place, measure the goddamned flow, then put the fucking cap back on and kill the goddamned thing.

I WANT FUCKING JUSTICE AND RECOMPENSE FROM BP, FOR GODSAKES!



I want every goddamend PENNY!

Don't give me no fucking bullshit about wanting more oil in the Gulf!!!

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:13 PM
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6. OK
(steps slowly away from the computer) :yoiks:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:15 PM
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10. I've been a member of this fucking site for FOUR YEARS and I'm sick and goddamned
tired of people projecting bullshit inferences on me that are completely unjustified according to my solid record of an issue on this website.

If you don't know me by now, that's your own goddamned fault!!!

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:26 PM
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13. What on earth are you talking about?
Seriously - take a chill pill - I'm not accusing you of anything except screaming at me in gigantic writing that makes a person look very angry.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:38 PM
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15. Thanks to BP, I'm VERY angry. They're going to get away with this
shit.

And you shouldn't have been "baffled" at all about my post considering that you SHOULD know me by now and know how I feel about this whole mess. We participated together in the ROV threads for at least a week. I've been in GD for four years. I make it a point to see who posts what and I try to get to know posters and I am very familiar with you. When you post, I can almost always see where you're coming from and, if I respond, I do so feeling that I know you a little bit. I guess I expect other posters are doing the same.

As for yelling AT you, I apologize. It was not necessarily aimed directly at you. I was expressing my frustration that BP is going to get away with this shit.

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:22 PM
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24. I honestly hadn't noticed the anger in the ROV threads
I'm a tech-geek and that was my main interest in those threads - seeing space-age technology in action in an attempt to conquer a volcanic-like eruption 1 mile below the surface. I did know you as somebody a bit 'hotter' than that before those threads, but I take people at face value and on topic (assuming you're not a sociopath.) Anyway, I really don't see BP as getting away with anything - it seems to me that between the dedicated teams working on this, the cost of 2 relief wells, their lost reputation, the $30B fund and the cost of all the cleanup efforts, they are paying a pretty hefty price already.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:27 PM
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14. I think this kind of post is what the new rules frown upon..
tone it down a bit sub.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:13 PM
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7. "all they have to do is .. take the cap off" and you'd then complain about the oil leaking again
and what if the cap couldn't be replaced.

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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:16 PM
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11. And you know I'd complain about the oil leaking...HOW EXACTLY???? n/t
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:26 PM
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12. Yes, they are gonna skate...

and while ya gotta be happy that the flow is stopped there is not going to be justice and the compensation will be grossly inadequate. The environmental damage can never be compensated.

That's capitalism for ya.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:12 PM
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5. If BP didn't do this, the same DU'ers would be theorizing how it was to make BP money
by NOT killing the well.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:14 PM
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8. Yes, I witnessed that as well
It's convenient when all answers lead to the same conclusion. :rofl:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:14 PM
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9. No doubt..
complainaholics.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:12 PM
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16. What the hell is this thread at ZERO recs? What the fuck has happened to DU?!
:grr:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:14 PM
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17. This procedure seems to be much more dangerous than the
bottom kill with a relief well.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:17 PM
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18. They do not want the flow measured. They will do whatever it takes
to keep that flowrate from becoming a part of the record of this phenomenal disaster.

They are going to get away with this shit just like bushco got away with theirs. And that enrages me to my core! :mad:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:19 PM
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19. "Bottom kill" is still weeks away. this could plug it by the weekend.
and a hurricane is on the way. I think plug it now before another disaster occurs.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:19 PM
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20. For some reason that term makes me think of anti-static spray
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:46 PM
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22. Keeping my fingers crossed.
:thumbsup:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:13 PM
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23. Recommend
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