|
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend Bookmark this thread |
This topic is archived. |
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) |
The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:29 AM Original message |
Doctor Gives Ocala Family Discharge Papers when they refuse to answer question |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
1. WTF does gun ownership have to do with treating these patients? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I believe that pediatricians commonly ask about guns in the home |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:38 AM Original message |
none of mine asked that question. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. Mine always have. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Clearly you're mistaken. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Well, when they ask, I know it's only because they're in a position of terrible, ill-gotten power |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
19. It's fortunate that we've had the opportunity to hear both sides of the story. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
36. Nor mine. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
61. Mine neither. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
69. Mine did |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I was NEVER asked about fire arms in my home with either my son or my two stepchildren. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Did your pediatrician ask about dangerous cleaning chemicals in your home? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. No, they never did. And I wouldn't expect them to ask me. They could, reasonably, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. It's super-duper that you use white vinegar and dish soap, but that's really not the point. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. The physician has the right and perhaps even the duty to explain and caution the parents |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. The doctor can ask any question that she feels appropriate to providing care. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #45 |
78. You know what Orex? You have no rights over me and neither does my doctor. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 01:02 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Feel better now? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
70. My son was poisoned by cleaning chemicals when he was two |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
57. My doctor asks me that question in the same group with seat belts |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mike r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. So children have to suffer for their parents' owning a gun |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. dead kids with bullet holes in them "have to suffer for their parents'owning guns" sometimes nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. A very small amount.... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Suicides and accidental deaths from 11-18 up that a bit, of course. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Generally 18 year olds aren't seen by pediatricians. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
71. When parents don't luck up the guns, yes, kids can suffer |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
4. What is uncomfortable about answering yes or no? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. It's none of the doctor's business whether or not she does |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. How about seat belts and bike helmets? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Depends on your state's laws, I suppose |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Never bothered me |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #72 |
84. I will concede that if a doctor truly feels the need to ask... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. Why would she be uncomfortable answering that question? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. What if they asked her if she keeps a vibrator in the house? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yeah! YEAH! What if? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. And why should anyone tell her how she should feel about a question |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Oh, I wasn't telling her how to feel. I was wondering why she would feel that way. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. of course we are |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. Your examples sort of fall apart there. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Last thing I heard... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. They could if you smacked someone in the head hard enough with one |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. That is such a GREAT comparison |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. All she had to do was ask, "Why do you need to know?" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. All the doctor needed to do was explain why he was asking, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. I have seen a number of doctors go way outside their expertise, this is not unique |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Your doctor wasn't Tom Coburn MD of Oklahoma was he? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. No, various places around the US |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
islandmkl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
15. maybe it was future reference in case of billing disputes... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dogtown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
20. So she *says*.... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I hadn't considered the TeaBagger angle, but otherwise I agree that your assessment seems reasonable |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. It blows me away, what people will go to the media with...and the fact that some editor goes, "RUN |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. And what people will react to with knee-jerk indignation, without having the whole story... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. "even here, on DU." |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
27. What about the physician's "conscience clause" - does not that reich-wing principle apply here? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
32. Why go to the statistics? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
33. The American Academy of Pediatrics considers gun violence a public health issue. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Sgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
34. From the American Academy of Pediatrics website |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I would have said "Yes, my guns are kept secure" and then |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. It would be much better to counter with pro-gun propaganda. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. "Firearm regulation, to include bans of handguns" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Here's to the unConstitutionality of banning firearms |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
35. "Hell no, Doc.... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
37. The guy asked about guns but not whether the parents smoked?? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Where does it say that? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. The pediatrician for my first child told me Joe Bugel is a douchebag. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
39. How many people would mind if they asked what their religion was and discharged them over it |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
43. Wow. I AM old. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
49. My gynecologist's office form always asks whether I always wear seat belts. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
55. Disgusting! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. After she declined to answer he could/should have said: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
58. Family and pediatrician tangle over question |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
59. They each have the right to decide whether they want to continue |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
62. My two cents... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Why shouldn't they ask? n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. The question is "Why should they ask?", it's none of their business. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Public health and safety is their business. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Wrong. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Seriously? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
67. The same reason we take our shoes and belts off at the TSA Airport Checkpoint.. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
74. And of course some people are cheering this. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Again, it's a good thing that we've heard both sides of the story, and not just the woman's version |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Well it isn't like any of you needed both sides of the story |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Um, think about what you wrote. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 02:27 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Wasn't hard to find |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 08:14 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I don't see where anyone suggested that the "evil librul doctor was going to take her guns" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) | Wed May 08th 2024, 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
Advertisements [?] |
Top |
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) |
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators
Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.
Home | Discussion Forums | Journals | Store | Donate
About DU | Contact Us | Privacy Policy
Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.
© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC