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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:37 PM Original message |
Obama blamed Vilsack for firing Sherrod.... |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thats what fall guys are for. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Fall guy? Guilty guy? it was Vils call...he takes the Fall...Sale going on at SWORDS R US |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I'm sure Vilsack didn't just fire her without the WH pressuring him.. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. How did you come to that conclusion? |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Sherodd said it herself |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Centrists think she is a liar. |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. well she is a communist.. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
85. "Centrists think she is a liar." |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. The "White House" does not always imply Presidential involvement nor did she actually KNOW... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. The president takes responsiblity for what "comes out of the White House". |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Yea, and people like you have turned it into nothing more than a corny cliche... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. Yes, exactly. +1000 |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
83. Seriously? |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
77. uhh. what about that much vaulted phrase *I've got this*. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
79. Its people like you, who see "attacks" on Obama behind every post, who are doing the |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. so you think Sherrod is ignorant of how the federal bureacracy works? |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. I think Sherrod is not an all knowing, all seeing flying spaghetti monster... |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Sherrod would know if the person telling her to resign worked |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Cheryl Cook does not work in the White House and thats who fired her. |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. sorry...the BBC story I quoted wasn't very clear about who told her |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. Yes I am sure the headlines about a Obama "appointee" |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Exactly - it was discussed at the Monday morning WH staff meeting. nt |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. Or, at the VERY least |
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jeffrey_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
84. Vilsack was supposed to check with Obama before he fired her? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Obama throws many things under the bus... |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Michelle has an organic garden behind the White House |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Maybe that was the WH plan all along? |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. or maybe Obama can step down and let Sherrod be President.. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. I think I would be happy if . . . |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. I like all the calls for Vilsack to be fired. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. No it's not the same at all. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It's irrational knee jerk fingerpointing, of the Breitbart variety. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Let's Sherrod was fired in 3 minutes...a few days later Vilasck still has his job... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Dumbasses call for Sherrod to be fired for no good reason... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Good point...nt |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I hope you aren't a Luddite... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Oh, he is. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. MonSatan... |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Hmmm, let's see now... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Here's how it's the same. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Here's how it's different. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. The Obama administration looks bad because people still carry Breitbart's water. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Actually, I haven't called for anyone to be fired... |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
53. Yes, it's exactly the same thing |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
86. Not at all. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. Last I heard presidents hire cabinet secretarys to carry out THEIR policies. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Firing someone because you thought they did something wrong is a pretty normal policy to have. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. And, Vilsack is still employed, while Sharrod isn't. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Horse shit. The administration has apologized to her and offered her re-employment. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Sherrod was offered her job back. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
64. No she was not |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Vilsuck, you must have laid awake all night thinking that one up. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. I've been calling him that since 2004 |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. if he believed fox news without looking into it, he's an idiot who should be fired. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I hope you never run any company I ever work for. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. do you dispute the contention that personnel decisions shouldn't be based on propaganda |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. I dispute the basis for your argument in general. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. "doesn't automatically mean" -- which is why investigation should be done before snap decisions. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Fox tore into John Edwards for fucking around on his wife. That was legitimate. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. oh, please. fox news selectively reports cheaters, as it selectively reports everything else, |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I didn't say they were a legitimate news organization. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. i didn't say any story from fox was false. i said anyone who makes a decision based on a report |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. So Fox was the ONLY media outlet reporting this prior to the firing? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. more goalpost moving & diversion. it is to you, apparently. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Yea, even the NAACP thought there was something to it. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #54 |
87. The mistake was in not waiting to hear Sharrod's side of the story ... |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
20. Vilsack, himself, said, in effect, he 'jumped the gun'... |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. your logic doesn't make sense |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Your reading comprehension makes even less sense. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. Huh, this is what I said... |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. sorry...the BBC story I quoted wasn't very clear about who told her |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. That's the unfortunate side of taking any, and I really mean, any news... |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. Actually Sherrod doesn't say that the White House pressured her |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
69. cbs says: Shirley Sherrod: White House Forced My Resignation |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. It real guilty MFKR is Brietbart and his minions incl FAUX NOOS |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. Yep, Vilsack acted wrongly and has admitted it, apologized for it... |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. FOX is stuck in a Nuts Vice.....nuts squeezed with 4756 lbs psi pressure |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Yep, totally agree! n/t |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
39. well? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
42. Wasn't it Vilsack who fired Sharrod?...nt |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
67. According to Ms. Sherrod, she was told several times that the WH wanted her to resign. |
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dtexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
75. Yeah, so? Are you saying that someone else fired her? |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
76. President Obama is blowing a lot of stupid stuff here |
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Minimus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. It also isn't true |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Sure |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
78. It's true but... |
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