Boys survive earthquake in Haiti, emigrate to US and drown at religious camp

[proud2BlibKansan]

Funeral held for KC teens who drowned in Iowa pool while at sports camp

By LAURA BAUER
The Kansas City Star

In a packed Baptist sanctuary today, people struggled to understand why two teenage boys had to die.

Nehmson Sanon, 15, a faithful son who respected adults and always took time to play with young children. Gael Cezil Chrispin, 14, an outgoing young man who spoke little English, but whose friends insisted they could understand his heart.

Both driven by their Christian faith. Both gone before they could finish high school.

“Our human minds ask, ‘Why?’ ” the Rev. John Mark Clifton, of Wornall Road Baptist Church, told the crowded church. “The scripture is often silent on the why. This side of heaven there are many questions that will go unanswered.”

For 10 days there have been questions.

The boys drowned in a Pella, Iowa, community swimming pool while attending a camp sponsored by the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Nehmson and Gael were members of Kansas City’s First International Baptist Church and were among eight youth from the church to attend the camp.

Parents of the two boys signed waivers identifying them as non-swimmers, but camp counselors left those waivers behind when they headed to the pool the evening of July 14.

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[rpannier]

1. Negligence

Not...had to die.

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. Just appalling

Those poor families. I can't even imagine the grief.

[NC_Nurse]

2. Why? Because you fucked up, that's why! God had nothing to do with it.

Disgusting.

[malaise]

4. That simple

Why request waivers and leave them.

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. I'm hoping someone is held accountable

A teacher in NYC was fired this month after a student died on a field trip to the beach.

[pscot]

14. Divine Providence

They died saved.

[Brickbat]

5. The Lord works in mysterious ways.

People, however, fuck up pretty obviously in preventable ways quite a bit.

[keroro gunsou]

19. thr lord may work in mysterious ways

but people work in predictably stupid ways.

[Loudmxr]

7. This is like another situation this weekend. Professionals do not make mistakes.

If you ever entrust a loved one to an organization.... please ask them "Do professionals make mistakes?" If they say "Yes"

Get them the hell away.

Amateurs make mistakes. Pros don't. Well at least employed professionals don't.

Because mistakes happen because we do not apply what we have learned not because we have learned from our mistakes.

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. Their parents told the camp they couldn't swim

I guess the counselors couldn't read.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

16. what a pile of horse-squeeze

pros don't make mistakes, aye? i guess those malpractice suits are just for the fun of it...and those engineers that design things that fail, they did that on PURPOSE because it wasn't a mistake in your eyes...

bullspit.

sP

[PCIntern]

9. Yeah, it was "God's Plan" to

take them from imminent danger and deposit them in the 'wonderful paradise of the US of A' so that they could frigging DROWN because the 'camp' wouldn't pay attention to the fact that supervision in a swimming facility must be mandatory. God, She sure has a penchant for Irony, doesn't She?

I happen to be a religious person, but I hate that crap...you know, the nonsense that there are mysteries which we'll never solve. I call BS on the whole bunch of them: I work with someone whose friend, a young gal, sustained a terrible brain injury because of an aneurysm which was deemed to small to worry about. Fair enough. So my employee went to Church and prayed every day for the young lady, who finally died. the WAILING and the UPSET..."...but I prayed so hard for her to survive!! I heard over and over...

Finally I said gently, "Sometimes perhaps what we should pray for is that God gives us strength to endure these difficult times, rather than to ask God to change his Plan." Fell on deaf ears...

Tell you one thing...organized religion which follows the 'Plan' tenets should ask itself, "Why didn't God include lots of extra money in the Plan, since all they ever have to do is ask everyone, including those who absolutely can't afford to give anything without taking food out of the mouths of their children, for money. It's always about the effing money.

"I beg your Indulgence" as an expression is EXACTLY correct, since they were for sale and that's where all THAT money came from...

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. There were 20 adults present when these kids drowned

Unbelievable they could be so negligent.

[patrice]

11. Funny how, no matter what "we" do or don't do, The Plan is responsible, not us.

If you do something and things turn out one way, that's "God's Plan".

If you don't do something and things turn our a different way, that's "God's Plan" too.

So, God must have a Plan that includes absolutely everything that COULD happen.

Works for me, 'cause that means that WE are the ones who are supposed to take responsibility for what happens, leave God out of it.

[PCIntern]

12. The Plan is that there's no Plan...

More irony...

[patrice]

13. Yep. We actually ARE free to enslave ourselves and others or to free ourselves and others.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. I'll take door #2, Monty

:)

[patrice]

17. Well, it isn't going 2 be either "a tiger or the lady" 4 you ma'am, but how about either "a tiger or

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. LOL!

[madmom]

20. Sure sounds like some one was NOT paying attention to their charges....

"Sometime after the group gathered to leave, a boy from the Kansas City church told counselors that Nehmson and Gael weren’t there. They were found at the bottom near the diving boards"