Valerie Plame or Wikileaks: Which spill did more damage to the US?

[Bozita]

Looks to me like the criminal GWB administration did a lot more damage, seeing as how Iran and its pursuit of nuclear stuff remains a major problem.

[MadMaddie]

1. The * adminstration took down years worth of work that Plame

and her team built. The * administration also got a lot of contacts murdered. The * admin should have been prosecuted for treason.

[Pavulon]

2. No one in the community ever went on record with any of that.

neither was a good thing but in the realm of fact what you are saying cant be backed up,

[MadMaddie]

9. There were plenty of stories about it

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Outed_CIA_officer_was_working_on_0213.html

http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/0425nj1.htm
-------------------------------------------------------------
Congressional Record: July 8, 2004 (Senate)
Page S7779-S7780
CIA AGENT REVEALED
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2004_cr/s070804.html

<snip>
Last November, we heard testimony from three former CIA experts. They
all agreed on the far-reaching damage this disclosure represented for
Ms. Plame's broader network of contacts and for the intelligence
community as a whole. After all, what guarantee does any intelligence
agent now have that they could not be the next victim of some
administration's smear campaign?
Vincent Cannistraro, former chief of operations and analysis at the
CIA Counterterrorism Center, said of the Plame disclosure:

The consequences are much greater than Valerie Plame's job
as a clandestine CIA employee--they include the damage to the
lives and livelihoods of many foreign nationals with whom she
was connected and it has destroyed a clandestine cover
mechanism that may have been used to protect other CIA
nonofficial cover officers.
<snip>

[grasswire]

3. Do not equate the two!

The leaking of Valerie Plame's name was part of a plot FOR WAR. It took down a network that monitored illicit nuclear arms.

The leaking of papers was done to stop war.

[jah the baptist]

10. so damage to the US is measured by weather or not

you agree with the political goals of the leaker?

[baldguy]

4. Wikileaks merely confirmed what everyone already knew.

[pleah]

5. +1

[Bozita]

6. Wondering which set of leakers ends up with more jail time served?

Without bigtime legal support, I fear that the Wikileaks folks are gonna end up a lot worse off than Scooter Libby.

[AnnieBW]

7. The Jury's Still Out

Granted, leaking Valerie Plame's association with the CIA caused irreparable damage to counter-proliferation efforts against Iran, North Korea, etc. People probably died in Iran and North Korea because of that. However, with the WikiLeaks stuff just hitting the media now, it will take several weeks or months before the repercussions are felt by our people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Every horrible thing that is revealed is going to galvanize more people against the U.S. No matter how much we try to "win hearts and minds," the people over there aren't going to remember the schools that we built, or the medical care, or all of the money we've pumped into their countries. THey're going to remember Abu Gharaib, Bagram, Fallujah, and lots of dead civilians.

[gateley]

8. But they may realize it was Bushco behind the scenes and that hopefully

Obama is changing that tune. :shrug:

[Hissyspit]

13. They wouldn't have Abu Ghraib, Bagram, Fallujah and lots of dead civilians to remember if

there weren't Abu Ghraib, Bagram, Fallujah and lots of dead civilians.

[SunsetDreams]

11. I think that both leaks are wrong.

[cynatnite]

12. Agreed. n/t