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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:01 PM
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Face It: Conservatives Are Cheap People.
Besides costing them their beloved hard-earned cash, conservatives hate taxes because they may actually be used to help other people. They’d prefer using tax dollars to keep people in line or incarcerated.



Conservatives fail to understand, or more likely have never heard nor read, the words of Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.:
    “Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society.”

Who hasn’t heard a Republican or Libertarian or Independent or other cheapskate who can’t stand the idea of people they don’t know getting something for free, like health care? They call that “socialism.”

Such skinflints also consider children from a far-off neighborhood who attend a public school to be undeserving of tax support. After all, the conservative doesn't care because they don’t have a child enrolled there. To them, public schools also must be socialism.

Then there’s welfare and unemployment compensation, which is basically the same thing in the conservative mind. Lazy people who’d rather collect a check than work a job. Maybe it’s poor people who are lazy because it’s in their nature or where they fall in the “Bell Curve.” Again, any government help is socialism.

What hypocrites. The conservatives fail to recognize the people they help are the ones who built America. They also protect America – and their own pimply backsides – during times like World War II and the Depression and Korea and Vietnam-Iraq-Afghanistan-Iraq and all other continually connected dots and whatever other wars large and small they can dream up for power and profit.

Hey, Mr. White Collar Conservative! When Wall Street and Big Business need bailouts, is that socialism? When certain industries grow fat from taxpayer dollars, is that socialism? Probably not, even though the costs and risks are taken on by We the People, the profits are privatized for the Have-Mores.

The conservative mind does appreciate that Americans are entitled to make money from trading, er, doing business with the government, whether it’s the health care business of life or the death business of war. And those are about the only sectors of the economy that are growing and this is where the conservative forgets all fiscal restraint and all of Grover Norquist's small-government nonsense.

War seems to be the favorite form for conservative investment and government policy. And they've done all they can to make sure both work in tandem, through policy and big jobs for politicians and lobbyists alike.

The conservative certainly has no problem with money being spent for war. Think of Carlyle Group and Trireme Partnerships and a whole lot more gold plated funeral barges of capital. They gladly invest in companies from Halliburton to SAI to Dyncorp to General Dynamics and wherever they can to make a buck whenever “national security” is in the news.

That is the worst part of many conservatives' make-up. The word for such a person is warmonger.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:11 PM
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1. The right want to privatize all government services period
they want corporation to take over and run things while they sit back and sip cocktails.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 07:00 PM
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6. ENRON was moving in that direction...
...until they got in a cash-flow problem.

Jebthro carried, eh, the water for Kenny Boy's privatization deals in Florida.

That's what the gang of thieves brought to America.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:28 PM
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14. OMG!!! What a truly evil bunch of fuckers!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:14 PM
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2. Right.
When I was employed in social work, the local republican officials always wanted to cut budgets. But, when one of their family members had a problem, the official would demand our immediate and absolute support.

Nominated.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 07:08 PM
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7. They stick together to protect ''their own.''
The rhetoric flew fast and furious back in 2004, when my 5th grade niece was advised by her friends' parents they would be voting for Bush because he would "better protect us." My niece is a smart kid who saw what kind of propaganda had formed her friends' political beliefs. They live in a well-off Chicago suburb. She says the kids' have only been further indoctrinated since then.

When it comes to money and power, the right knows how to "breathe together." Catherine Austin Fitts pegs it:

"One of the things that is interesting about reading conspiracy theory is that much of what folks think is conspiracy is really many people acting in concert to make or protect their money."
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:22 PM
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3. I've been saying this for years
Libertarians especially use their so-called politics to excuse their being cheapskates.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:02 PM
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12. Cato Institute lobbied against Head Start
Now that's hard-hearted, saving money by going after the poorest of the poor's children.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:29 PM
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4. Not really...the call girls in tri-state area always said the Repubs spent the MOST money AND had
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 06:30 PM by blm
the best drugs....during the 80s and 90s, anyway. Haven't heard much since. No doubt the working girls around DC were kept terrified during Bush2 - they knew they'd be toast if they talked.

Of course, that's the more lavish living GOP pols and their minions. No doubt the rank and file voters the pols exploit for their cheap tendencies is another story.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 07:16 PM
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8. I think that's probably an abberation -- trying to impress with money rather than
err, *attributes*.

I'll bet those same pukes (when out with their wives or neighbors) complained about service, stiffed waiters who weren't subservient enough, etc. But when the ladies of the evening showed up, they wanted to WOW them with something they knew they had plenty of -- money and drugs.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 06:47 PM
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5. They live by a system of punishment and reward
It's not just that they're cheap -- they sincerely believe the deserving (them) should be rewarded and the undeserving (the poor) should be punished. This is why they're perfectly happy to see the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. It suits their primitive notions of justice.

They don't care about a just society -- or about the recent study showing that in more egalitarian societies everybody is happier and healthier, including those on top. This is not even carrot-and-the-stick thinking, because they're not pragmatic or result-oriented. It's based on pure vindictiveness and nothing else.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 08:04 PM
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10. Ain't dat da TRUTH
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 07:35 PM
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9. Repukes looooooooove Wal Mart!
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 08:40 PM
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11. Every conservative I know receives some kind of public assistance...
and/or has children and grandchildren that do.

Ironic, ain't it?
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:32 PM
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16. Not to them.
See, according to them they deserve the assistance they get. It's not even assistance at all. It's society recognizing how awesome they are and giving them money because they're entitled to it.

That minority family down the street on the other hand: They're just bums on welfare. Even if they aren't actually on public assistance and never have been.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:27 PM
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13. Conservatives: I've got mine and fuck everybody else!
That seems to be their mentality anyway. I laugh at the fact that the Jonas Bros. are heading up the "Reagan Youth" committee. Scary shit. :scared:
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 10:13 PM
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15. It's even worse than you say.
They want people kept in line and incarcerated (and killed, don't forget all the people they want killed, both here and abroad) but they sure as hell don't want the money to come out of THEIR pockets. They want all these things and they want zero taxes, too.
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