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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:12 PM
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Drudge Headline "AS-SALAMU ALAYKUM"
The headline of Drudge right now is about Obamas speech about the Mosque and it has the headline
"AS-SALAMU ALAYKUM". Maybe I am totally wrong here, but does anyone else see that as kind of offensive bordering on bigoted.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:14 PM
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It IS because its meant to be; otherwise, its an international GREETING!!!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:14 PM
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1. Depends on what it means..I have no idea.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:18 PM
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3. Really? It means, 'Hi.'
In Arabia, the greeting is associated with shaking right hand and then possibly two or three light cheek to cheek kisses (only between the same gender).
In Iran, the greeting is accompanied by a kiss. The way Iranians say As-Salamu 'Alaykum is a simple Salaam. This means Peace, and is used similarly to "Hi" in English-speaking cultures.
In Pakistan, the greeting is often accompanied with a nod of acknowledgment and a hug when meeting infrequently between the same gender. In Bangladesh and in some parts of Pakistan and India, the greeting is accompanied by raising the right hand to the forehead (arz hai <"regards">).
In Indonesia, the greeting is usually accompanied with a kind of two-handed "handshake", whereby the shaker's palms remain closed, and the fingers alone open to admit the other's proffered hand- which briefly touches the proffered's fingers or fingertips alone. In this way more adherent males and females may greet though touching- but remain true to the Islamic or cultural teachings forbidding physical contact between the genders. Occasionally, the right-hand will touch the left-breast or heart area after this "salem".
In Javanese culture, a remnant of feudalism is retained, where an elder's proffered right hand is taken and pressed briefly against the forehead. Some may instead briefly kiss the hand or the main ring. This is very common for young children to greet older relatives (of their parents' age, though on occasion if very polite children, younger). As per Turkey, "slm" is common for teen "SMS" or internet speak.
Some more pious Muslims may say "Selam" and then perform two very brief cheek kisses, or cheek brushes- but only among the same gender.

In Turkey, many Turkish use this statement and hugs each other, more secular and non-religious people, say "Selam" as an equivalent to "Hello" or "Hi". This use has extended onto the internet with the abbreviated "slm" being commonly used amongst Turks on social networking websites.
In Amharic , the term "Selam" is used in place of "Tadias" which is the equivalent of "What's up". The word "Selam" has the same meaning in Amharic as in Arabic which is "peace".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As-Salamu_Alaykum

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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:15 PM
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2. From Drudge?
Yes. Beyond bordering though.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:22 PM
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4. Drudge? Offensive? Bigoted? Stupid? Hate mongering?
Nevah!
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:39 PM
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5. From the Islamic-Dictionary, and the way I learned it...

Word: Assalamu Alaikum
Meaning: Peace be unto you. It is a shortened form of the grand greeting: Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh (Peace be unto you and so may the mercy of Allah and His blessings). The greeting is recommended to be only used between Muslims.
True Form: السلام عليكم
Grammar: greeting; two words;
Explanation: In reply to this a person may repeat the greeting and say: Assalamu Alaikum; However, it is more fitting to reply: Wa Alaikum Assalam.

Word: Wa Alaikum Assalam
Meaning: When a Muslim is greeted with the word 'salam' or its variants, they should reply Wa Alaikum as-Salam - And upon you be peace.
True Form: و عليكم السلام

http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=assalamu%20alaikum">More here...



Thanks for all the detail in the post above. It is really hard to learn those things in our daily lives here, but maybe learning a little more might help us appreciate other's viewpoints.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:59 PM
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7. Thought so.
Best friend is/was Paki/Muslim. (NOW, Unitarian/Hindu!)
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 05:52 PM
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6. I got yer translation, Dredge, right here!
When referring to Mutt Dredge, the phrase translates to, 'Asshat I am.'
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:27 PM
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8. Drudge?? He makes shit up! never would I waste the time. nt
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:50 PM
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9. It links to Politico...
they have two "main threads" about the Mosque, one has over 4,000 comments the other well over 2,000 comments. All in 24 hours.

Lots of "new" members now, and the hate is awful. Ranging from kill liberals and Muslims, to Islam is a cult, to put all Muslims in a camp and kill 'em.

I don't ever think I've seen so many vile hateful comments. It's kinda scary.
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