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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 04:42 PM
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Death, Suicide, & the Economy
Edited on Fri Aug-20-10 04:56 PM by Hannah Bell
The unemployed commit suicide at a rate two or three times the national average, researchers estimate. And in many cases, the longer the spell of unemployment, the higher the likelihood of suicide. On online fora such as Unemployed-Friends, the topic comes up often, users finding news reports or hearing tell of deaths in their community, and mourning them. There was the Staten Island suicide, where an emergency medical services employee who thought himself about to be fired posted his final words on Facebook: “I can’t go on anymore. I just hung myself...”

The stories appear in letters to Congress as well. “My dad, S, killed himself March 16, 2009 because he ran out of money and could not find work. My whole family had been devastated by the economy. He was 61 years old and could not take it anymore. He could not figure out how to keep the electric on, buy food, or keep a roof over his head. A day before his electric was to be shut off, and 2 weeks away from eviction, my dad took the hardest walk of his life. He left a note on the dining room table for my sister and I. His suicide letter said ‘I love you. I had to do this. I ran out of money. I wish you both luck in your lives’. He left the door unlocked with the door key left in the lock. He carefully laid out two suits for us to pick from to bury him in,” one person from Forest Hills, N.Y., wrote to Rep. Anthony Weiner (D)...

The stories show the deeper wounds of unemployment, and especially long-term unemployment. It is not just the loss of a job, but the loss of community, routine and purpose. It means worse health. It means higher rates of divorce. It means alcohol abuse. All of these are also risk factors for suicide...

During the Great Depression, the suicide rate increased about 20 percent, from 14 to 17 per 100,000 people. The Asian economic crisis in 1997 led to an estimated 10,400 additional suicides in Japan, Hong Kong and Korea, with suicides spiking more than 40 percent among some demographic groups...So how many suicides are associated with the recession? Nobody knows, not yet. The statistics lag about three years, so the official Center for Disease Control numbers still predate the financial crisis. Right now, therefore, the reports remain anecdotal. But looking at individual counties’ or cities’ data, there are ominous signs of a real spike...

http://washingtonindependent.com/94925/death-and-joblessness


I'm posting this because of the disturbing number of reports, even here at DU, of people who've lost jobs, income support (e.g. medicaid, disability), businesses, homes -- & say they're holding on by their fingertips or have given up.

It's infuriating to see people stressed, hopeless, talking about death when there's enough for everyone in the country & in the world to have a secure productive life. Infuriating to see corps' stock prices & profits climb while people are ground down. Infuriating to see more & more cuts -- of jobs, of wages, of the safety net -- demanded. And infuriating to see some minimize or even mock these human costs, or even applaud them as socially beneficial.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 05:16 PM
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1. I'm really worried about people.
CA might as well still be in the Bush years. We are sliding down a cliff, economically.
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peacefreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 05:36 PM
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2. I'm a 99'er
and I hate to admit that it has crossed my mind. It is the culmination of stress, feeling like a loser, having your life turned upside down to the point you HAVE no life. You're just hanging on the best you can.
It all came to head for me when I had a medical crisis--stroke level blood pressure & chest pains. Because of that I ended up at a free clinic. They helped me get my BP under control & for the first time in my life I was put on anti-depressants. I started to really pay attention to my health. I am trying to eat better & get out & walk every day. Just the fact that I am being pro-active has given me focus.
There are now millions of us in this position. There is more despair than hope. I wish there was change we could believe in. (That is not a slam against the Obama administration. I think once he got in he found things way worse than he even knew).
If you are lucky enough to have a job & a stable roof over your heads, be thankful. It doesn't take much to end up where we are.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 05:54 PM
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4. you're not the only one. i got a pm from someone this am, part of the reason i posted this.
i hope things get better for you -- and everyone -- soon.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:40 PM
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5. k for
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:11 AM
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15. "more despair than hope"

So true.

You're not a loser. Most people in dire straits have done their best -- done what they were always told to do to achieve the American Dream. Please be gentle with yourself. :cry:

I also hope your situation improves greatly...very, very soon. I hope it does for so many who are teetering on the edge, feeling despair.

You're in my thoughts and I send many heartfelt hugs of support your way, and to anyone else reading who would like to accept them.

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 05:48 PM
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3. Deleted
Edited on Fri Aug-20-10 05:49 PM by Turbineguy
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:42 PM
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6. K&R
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 09:08 PM
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7. Not to get too dramatic,
but human evil thrives on wall Street.

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JJ Walker Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 09:18 PM
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8. Capitalism kills
in so many different ways.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:02 AM
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12. Unregulated capitalism certainly does.
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 11:20 AM by Kurovski
Just add it to the list of things humans kill for.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 09:51 PM
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9. kik
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 09:55 PM
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10. Thanks for posting this.
K & R
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 10:28 PM
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11. I'm going to say something very hard here, and I hope that at least a few will hear it.
A big part of the problem is that *we* have abdicated our community. WE have given up any sense of all being in this together.

This is one big example of what I am talking about... when people are having problems in their lives, be it economic, or whatever, we no longer think of ourselves as a resource for them in any real way. We want to push them off onto "therapists", and get them on drugs as the answer.

That is ludicrous. Just yesterday, a friend was telling me that he has been very depressed because his brother was murdered. When he tries to talk about it, people are silent. They don't know what to say. Or they just don't care enough to respond. So, he went to a doctor, and when he mentioned this, the doctor immediately took out her prescription pad and was going to prescribe pills. He was aghast. He knows why he is depressed, and he knows what is happening to him. He knows he is isolated because people can't be there for him, and was insulted that pills were supposed to be the answer.

We are failing people like this. We are not a people who have any idea any more how to interact with people who are hurting. We shun them. It may be catching.

Another woman I know who is dealing with a terrible illness told me today that the worst part is, nobody will listen to her. She is isolated, and can't talk about it.

This is OUR failure. All we do is try to figure out ways to talk people into taking pills, instead of looking at our own failure, and how to fix our inability to reach out to hurting people. We completely lack any real listening skills, and we have no interest in remedying that. Any time it is mentioned, people scoff.... everyone thinks they already are great listeners.

Balderdash. We have no concept in how to be there for each other, and in how to create and build real community. The pathetic situation at DU proves that.

As I said elsewhere, the REAL radical action right now is to learn LISTENING skills, and learn how to empathize and bring people together in a way to build strength. In that way we will humanize this nation, and not until then.

People who have adequate and empathetic support in their lives are much more likely to continue their lives. It is a very simple psychological fact. I just came back from visiting myy Indian friends, and was much stronger when I returned. Being accepted, being cared about, and not being afraid of being myself..... that is much more than any pill can do. Indians know this, and we should all, too. It is a basic fact of life we have chosen to ignore.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:07 AM
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13. +1000 Thank you. n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:11 AM
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14. Make that 1001.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 02:26 PM
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16. K & R !!!
:kick:
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