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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:32 PM
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Greenwald: Shouldn't Critics Of WikiLeaks For Failing To Redact Also Criticize Pentagon For Refusing
Edited on Fri Aug-20-10 06:58 PM by Hissyspit
Greenwald via Twitter: "Shouldn't those who criticized WikiLeaks for failing to redact also criticize the Pentagon for refusing to help it do so?"

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/20/wikileaks/index.html

FRIDAY, AUG 20, 2010 12:21 ET
Why won't the Pentagon help WikiLeaks redact documents?
BY GLENN GREENWALD
(updated below - Update II - Update III)

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On Friday, White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said it was "absolutely, unequivocally not true" that WikiLeaks had offered to let U.S. government officials go through the documents to make sure no innocent people were identified.

Do you see what happened there?  Schmitt, wanting to side with his Pentagon friends, publicly suggested that Assange was lying when he claimed that he offered to allow the Government to suggest redcations, even as Schmitt himself acknowledged that "Assange wrote that WikiLeaks would consider recommendations made by the International Security Assistance Force 'on the identification of innocents for this material if it is willing to provide reviewers'," an offer Schmitt says he conveyed to the White House.  In other words, Schmitt defended the Pentagon's denials that Assange made this offer even as he himself described the very events which proved Assange was telling the truth.  At the very least, WikiLeaks clearly indicated its willingness to have government officials review the documents and make recommendations about redactions -- something those officials refused to do.

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After the last release, the Pentagon very flamboyantly accused WikiLeaks of endangering the lives of innocent Afghans, even accusing them of having "blood on their hands" (despite the absence of a single claim that anyone was actually harmed from the release of those documents).  If Pentagon officials are truly concerned about the well-being of Afghan sources identified in these documents -- rather than exaggerating and exploiting that concern in order to harm WikiLeaks' credibility -- wouldn't they be eager to help WikiLeaks redact these documents?  That would be the behavior one would expect if these concerns were at all genuine. 

Instead, the Pentagon is doing the opposite:  first lying by denying that WikiLeaks ever sought this help, then refusing to provide it in response.  In the conflict between the U.S. Government and WikiLeaks, it is true that one of the parties seems steadfastly indifferent to the lives of Afghan civilians.  Despite the very valid criticisms that more care should have been exercised before that first set of documents was released, the party most guilty of that indifference is not WikiLeaks.

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UPDATE II:  Sean-Paul Kelley, who very harshly criticized WikiLeaks for the lack of redactions in the released documents, today, to his immense credit, re-considers and retracts that criticism in light of the evidence presented here.
 
UPDATE III:  Newsweek's Mark Hosenball follows up on the issues raised here in a new article today, with more evidence proving that WikiLeaks has been attempting to secure the Pentagon's cooperation in redacting names -- exactly as Assange has been explaining -- while the Pentagon has been issuing multiple false denials of these facts.  Shouldn't anyone who criticized WikiLeaks for its lack of redactions also be criticizing the DoD for refusing WikiLeaks' requests for redaction assistance (and then falsely denying it happened)?

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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:45 PM
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1. Good find. Sheesh.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:51 PM
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2. kick
and I'm gonna keep kicking it
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:48 PM
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11. Let me help you with that
Kick and a big Rec as well.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:53 PM
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3. They don't give a shit about any Afghans, they wanted to shut off the source
or discredit them.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:36 PM
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4. But so many here a few weeks ago were happy to post the Pentagon line.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:56 PM
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5. indeed, oh-so-many were. Very "Underground," innit?
Or, most decidedly, not.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 11:08 PM
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6. as promised nt
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:45 AM
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7. Again. nt
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:21 PM
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8. "The blood, if there is to be any, is on the Pentagon's hands. It's that simple."
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:24 PM
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9. Because the Pentagon doesn't help anyone trying to illegally release classified documents
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 12:37 PM by tammywammy
It's that simple. He illegally released classified documents, why should anyone the Pentagon to help him. He should have taken longer to make sure the names were redacted.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:26 PM
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10. The ones saying he has blood on his hands are almost always just pro-war posers.
They don't like that they have blood on their own hands, so they fob off their guilt onto someone else.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 01:21 PM
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12. As if the Pentagon ever gave a shit about human life!
What a fucking joke.
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