Christian Right leaders unable to say what exactly is wrong with gay people

[ck4829]

Movies and TV shows (That portray gay characters) "desensitize the public to the raft of problems associated with homosexual behavior," (What problems?) says Bryan Fischer, director of issue analysis for the American Family Association, one of the proponents of Proposition 8, California's constitutional ban on same-sex marriage now tied up in court. "Hollywood is conveying a deceptive message about that behavior and doing a disservice to (viewers) who are coming to conclusions based on what they see on the silver screen. It's a distortion of reality." (How so?)

Says Glenn Stanton, director of family studies for Focus on the Family: "When actual gay and lesbian weddings are shown on TV (as in news coverage), we win. When they're shown through the lens and creativity and artifice of Hollywood, we don't. Hollywood is succeeding, but they're doing so by not representing reality." (Does this make sense to anyone at all?)

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-08-24-gayshollywood23_CV_N.htm

[Touchdown]

1. They should ask sensible DUers.

;)

[Fumesucker]

2. Reality is mostly mind numbingly boring..

People wouldn't watch real reality, they could just turn off the TV and stay home from the movies and get all the real reality they can handle.

Entertainment is escapist because people want to escape from their everyday, humdrum boring lives for at least a little while.

[walldude]

3. All they have is a mythical book... written 2000 years ago

and translated several times. Of course they are unable to make a valid point or explain their unfounded fears, they live by a mythical rule book written by men attempting to exert some control over the population.

They did a good job too. They have these people still foaming at the mouth 2000 years later. Props.

[Touchdown]

4. If you believe in virgins who have babies, then your willing to swallow anything.

... and thus expect everybody else to be just as gullible.

[Hepburn]

8. Isn't that the truth!

I could never quite figure how in the hell the religious nuts bought into that creation myth. It is so totally laughable.

:hi:

[pipi_k]

9. Sometimes I try to put myself in the shoes of another person...

in an effort to understand why he thinks the way he does.

So I've tried to do the same with the story of the Creation. And I just can't wrap my head around why an adult would believe something that sounds like a story people might tell a kid.

Even more unbelievable to me, how anyone could give credence to the story of the Flood and how two of every creature on earth today existed then and spent over a month on a ship bobbing in the seas. I think I can even understand someone believing in Creation but blowing off Noah's Ark as one of the stupidest stories ever told.

:shrug:

[BillStein]

14. I've always like Karen Armstrong's comment

that we begin believing in God, the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. But long after our understanding of the bunny and man in the red suit have matured, our belief in God remains the same.

on edit: I should have noted that I heard this in a radio interview, and I'm paraphrasing.

[Deep13]

5. They subjectively don't like it.

Every other argument they make is based on that. They don't like it because they were raised with Abrahamic values that condemn it. Had they been raised with Hellenistic values, they would feel that it is normal, especially in early teens when boys are discovering sexuality. Neither the ancient Greeks nor Christian Fundies seem to have given much thought to female homosexuality.

[Taverner]

6. Weren't the women of Sparta playing for the other team when the men went to war?

[Deep13]

7. I really don't know. I haven't read any evidence of that.

:shrug:

[raccoon]

10. They don't like it because they perceive it as a threat to a patriarchal society.

Female homosexuality is not nearly the threat to it that male is.

[Deep13]

11. Except it was tolerated in ancient Greece which was a patriarchal society...

...as it was in Rome. It was almost mandatory in the patriarchal warrior society of Sparta.

[pipi_k]

15. What I find strange is...

how many of the same people (mostly men) who find the idea of male homosexuality vile and disgusting actually get turned on by lesbianism.


I always wonder, what's up with that...

[raccoon]

16. They're just horndogs. nt

[lunatica]

12. In my experience religious homophobes don't know any gay people

Or, better said, they don't know that some of the people they know are gay, so that in itself shows they don't know squat about gays.

[BillStein]

13. willful blindness

I had a colleague who once argued that in " experience, gay men never form long lasting relationships." At that time, my husband and I had been together almost ten years. I've always been open here, and have a picture of the two of us on my desk. She even met him several times! But when I challenged her statement, she insisted that she "never met a long term gay couple." I pressed her, and asked if she didn't know at least one long term gay couple, and she insisted that it just never happens!

Arguing with these people is just pissing into the wind...:banghead:

[lunatica]

17. She's made up her mind. Why are you trying to confuse her

with facts?

[BillStein]

18. it just blew me away

that she could tell me, whom she knew was in a stable, long term relationship that she didn't know any gay men who were in lasting relationships!:eyes:

I mean, really now, I'm hardly invisible

(edited for spelling)

[dickthegrouch]

19. Probably means every time they try they include themselves

All too often when I'm complaining about someone else's behavior, I find that my own parallels it in some way. When the KKKristians are vague and imprecise, they can get away with it. When they are forced to be very specific they can''t help but find themselves included in the supposed badness.

I despise most religions for their hypocrisy. The one religion that impresses me for its consistency of message and purpose is Buddhism. I would advise the second coming to be a Buddhist and kill all the judeo-kkkristian "faiths" stone dead.

[Ikonoklast]

20. I'll tell you exactly what's wrong with gay people!

At least the couple I know!

They've been together in a loving relationship nigh on forty years now, and if that isn't a threat to every married couple in this country...


Umm.


Wait.



I got nuthin', and so do the haters.

[Matariki]

21. I'd like to slap people that say "homosexual behavior"

i really would.