Ari Fleischer wants MORE COWBELL (Actually more Bush kissyface and thank-yous and general worship)

[Amerigo Vespucci]

There's still a lot of talk in DC surrounding President Barack Obama's shout-out to former President George W. Bush during his speech on Iraq Tuesday night.

While many conservatives believe that Obama did the right thing, some liberals think the call amounted to a pat on the back, and are angry that the president who campaigned against the war said nothing about the US disinformation campaign regarding nonexistent Iraq WMD.

The following day, pundits continued to argue about whether Bush deserved praise for his role in withdrawing troops from Iraq. Appearing on CNN Wednesday night, former Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer said he wished that Obama had mentioned Bush more in the speech.

The former press secretary helped found the now-defunct Freedom's Watch organization which lobbied in support of President George W. Bush's "War on Terror" following Obama taking office.

"I think it would have been gracious of him if he'd mentioned the surge, but the problem he has, for President Obama to put the words 'President Bush,' 'Iraq' and anything good in the same sentence, the Democrat base, which already doesn't want to show up in November -- what will Nancy Pelosi see if he starts talking like that?" wondered Fleischer.
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"I wish he was more gracious about it, but he has his own Democratic political imperatives," Fleischer said.

But Paul Begala, a CNN contributor and former advisor to Bill Clinton, turned that argument around.

"But I'll make a deal with President Bush," Begala told Fleischer. "We'll give you all the credit for the surge if you take half of the blame for the lies that got us into the war," he said.

"...by which I mean Ari himself saying Iraq was an imminent threat to America, by which the president of the United States saying it was a mushroom cloud that could become a smoking gun, by which I mean the threat of unmanned aerial drones that Saddam supposedly had that would gas America, the connections that they allege which were false between al Qaeda and -- and Saddam's regime," Begala continued.

"So, you know, there was so much they got wrong about this. Some of it just was botched, and some of it was deeply dishonest. And the notion that somehow George Bush is owed any moment of grace here is appalling to the history."

"Neither you nor anybody else, including your old boss, Bill Clinton, challenged George Bush when he said that, because the intelligence that they all saw, too, led them to the same conclusion," Fleischer replied.

"They didn't see all the intelligence, because you guys weren't sharing it," Begala quipped.

"Bush manipulated and cherry picked the intelligence," said Begala. "...as did Mr. Cheney, as did Mr. Rumsfeld, and that's why 4,427 Americans are dead."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs1/2010/09/02/begala-calls-fleischer-lies-war/

[rfranklin]

1. The facts have a well known liberal bias...

Nothing can make a right winger face facts. Their entire world view is a fantasy.

[HillbillyBob]

4. Or delusions or halucinations.

Im really sick of this shit.

I did find the one thing that you can get through on to my right wing mom...
Get corporate $ and lobby out of our government and return it to the people.
Public campaign funding and fairness doctrine plus equal air time for candidates and limits on what can be spent on campaigns
She started to object I said no we raise the taxes corporations pay to run elections with...she has started talking to rightwing friends seems to be making a few inroads in the gated community she lives in and with other family members. Maybe we need to push that more?

[rfranklin]

5. I think that's a good approach...

It could work no matter what the political philosophy--

"Most Americans agree with your viewpoint. But it's the big corporations and labor unions and special interests that are thwarting the will of the people by buying off the politicians. Without that money, we would see politicians who are more responsive to the will of the people."

[blueworld]

10. +10 n/t

[JuniperLea]

2. I cannot believe there's so much discussion over nothing...

Obama said he called Bush. Period. There was no mention of an apology, there was only a mention of a call being placed. For all we know he said...


"W, you fucking rat bastard! This is Barack. I just wanted to let your sorry ass know that I'm pulling our troops out of Iraq today. That won't help the poor soldiers you had killed for nothing, you stupid fuck! I'm working as quickly and as hard as I can to erase all the idiotic, murderous, thieving things you did while you were in office. And with every success I have, I'm going to call your sorry fuck face and let you know in the hope that you might someday get what a sorry assed motherfucker you are."


We just don't know... do we?


Bush gets credit for lying us into an illegal war. The idea that he deserves anything other than to be completely ostracized is beyond the pale.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

3. I think Obama should ONLY refer to Bush as "fuck face" from this point forward

NO MORE "Former President Bush." Nope.

"Fuck Face." EXAMPLE:

OBAMA: "I just got off the phone with Fuck Face. We had a nice conversation."

Hey, Bush loved to give condescending, bullying nicknames to everyone. I'm sure he'd like an "official" nickname added to the list we all came up with over the 8 years of his "presidency," and "Fuck Face" is just so...succinct, ya know?

:grouphug:

[JuniperLea]

6. Works for me!!

:rofl:

We need to make that happen!

:grouphug:

[HillbillyBob]

8. Skidmark would work too

the kind you see on porcelain.......
I really despise that pos.

[Radical Activist]

7. F-ing A for calling out their intentional dishonesty.

I get really sick of this revisionist history that there were simply "mistakes." It was no mistake. The fraud committed against the American public was deliberate.

[Ganja Ninja]

9. Let him go over to Iraq and walk among those he "liberated".

I'm sure they'll give him his just deserts.